Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.083 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.85; '*S*': 0.02; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'subject:language': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'ascii,': 0.16; 'brilliant': 0.16; 'folks,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'knight': 0.16; 'subject:programming': 0.16; 'thanks,': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'speakers.': 0.24; 'non': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'dec': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'beginning': 0.33; 'reader': 0.33; 'skip:u 20': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'impression': 0.36; 'doing': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.38; 'then,': 0.60; 'tell': 0.60; 'our': 0.64; 'taking': 0.65; 'shortly': 0.68; 'engage': 0.74; 'theoretical': 0.74; 'introduce': 0.78; 'start.': 0.84; 'storytelling': 0.84; 'story,': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=J8kgoaHBbHtvZEjFGj84kfOqNJJy3mHZj0OQcNFG5a8=; b=vUa91m2xac9gVh62CmE4tRPAHfY7gycFKFhf39KLAdRyIYuzTuE1/a/07Q9Al48ffD 7068RBfM99IrkDBv0FY1SIhB1FtVvbgqNBRfkAhJPdwOmM/N+eU7rIorawHLRGpn6g8t lzmrs09VQy6ZNkBDWBcdzIMA89rgL1lOKf2cqe5iYVJofEqJ2ghcwYI5GWG0C7Nq+FBR NUxDPpi8XfzipchR0f0YX6UTnRVBaC0RhVQiPfEflatkkgB3AsVZiiMa7stnNsgulA7r uhrjm+gSGeR81eoi+C01Yg/YNsJc0haUf4L0upZSlXNDSCfsyF38mTlqIYsZ7n8gX0tJ oF1w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.164.136 with SMTP id yq8mr761866pab.67.1386758743506; Wed, 11 Dec 2013 02:45:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201312090824.25211.gheskett@wdtv.com> <52A78F6F.3060507@stoneleaf.us> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 21:45:43 +1100 Subject: Re: Experiences/guidance on teaching Python as a first programming language From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1386758747 news.xs4all.nl 2939 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44200 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:61547 On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > When you tell a story, it's important to engage the reader from the > start. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:39 PM, wrote: > A few practical considerations, far away from theoretical > aspects. Mainly for non ascii, understand non native English > speakers. And then, shortly after the beginning of the story, you need to introduce the villain. Thanks, jmf, for taking that position in our role-play storytelling scenario! A round of applause for jmf, folks, for doing a brilliant impression of the uninformed-yet-fanatical Knight Templar villain! ChrisA