Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.029 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'bug': 0.12; 'changes': 0.15; '3:27': 0.16; 'maintainer': 0.16; 'porting': 0.16; 'upgrades.': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'switch': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'converting': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'too.': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.33; 'bugs': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; '14,': 0.36; 'reflect': 0.36; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'hi,': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.38; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'conversion': 0.61; 'john': 0.61; 'mar': 0.68; '2015': 0.84; 'forced': 0.84; 'pain': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=evS4i7KTjidG4+iZnCs8N5zbWLTysmID0t88XWlHX5U=; b=rZKa4GMxwqdA5sIZT3TkBAf2nEquPaMyGcN7d26PDc33DaODfemBay35vXjAElidcw zxzaaADtZID3ge7lpo0LQSwzwtv1SAzC0/aUffo37A6bQDgC1tfTFRqBX26sOnRgqWtm aGGEDfsIHEmPstrWQ9KIRqsjqag+ytNYkehXNz1u2aJAoFy45EdEqbfGX0UJTQtHgTUe vwIUd+C0+DcXel38LB5SRhmKEu12JT/VQD2qiB6KQSUs/926iE1XEB72acqFVS9rb1Ai 7jU0VO63ZhNB93h2a8gliIXDraCTLOA+G34iIMJnBICuIhLbDoNq9obos8k/Z6gZh/8+ LvFA== X-Received: by 10.182.250.193 with SMTP id ze1mr43947852obc.70.1426402927807; Sun, 15 Mar 2015 00:02:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <550351BF.5020108@animats.com> From: INADA Naoki Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:01:47 +0900 Subject: Re: Python 2 to 3 conversion - embrace the pain To: John Nagle Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1426402930 news.xs4all.nl 2871 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48052 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:87465 What I want to say is, MySQLdb -> PyMySQL conversion is not required for porting from Python 2 to Python 3. mysqlclient is straight upgrade path from MySQLdb. On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 8:01 AM, John Nagle wrote: > On 3/13/2015 3:27 PM, INADA Naoki wrote: >> Hi, John. I'm maintainer of PyMySQL. >> >> I'm sorry about bug of PyMySQL. But the bug is completely unrelated >> to Python 3. >> You may encounter the bug on Python 2 too. > > True. But much of the pain of converting to Python 3 > comes from having to switch packages because the Python 2 > package didn't make it to Python 3. > > All the bugs I'm discussing reflect forced package > changes or upgrades. None were voluntary on my part. > > John Nagle > > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- INADA Naoki