Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!194.109.133.85.MISMATCH!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'terry': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; 'parsing': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'statement.': 0.09; 'wrote:': 0.15; 'expression,': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'tmp': 0.16; 'unambiguous': 0.16; 'pm,': 0.16; 'jan': 0.19; 'language': 0.21; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'parse': 0.23; 'sort': 0.28; 'subject:?': 0.31; 'does': 0.33; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.34; 'header:X-Complaints- To:1': 0.34; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.34; 'things': 0.35; 'assignment': 0.35; 'but': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'perhaps': 0.39; 'header:Mime-Version:1': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'case': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'more': 0.60; 'ever': 0.65; 'here.': 0.66; 'sides.': 0.84; 'thereof': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: Interpreting Left to right? Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 17:02:00 -0400 References: <4E043953.5080705@stoneleaf.us> <20110624195300.GJ6075@point.cs.wisc.edu> <4E04EFD4.6050309@stoneleaf.us> <20110624200618.GK6075@point.cs.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: rain.gmane.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 In-Reply-To: <20110624200618.GK6075@point.cs.wisc.edu> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1308949343 news.xs4all.nl 512 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:59431 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:8408 On 6/24/2011 4:06 PM, Tycho Andersen wrote: > tmp = {} > x['huh'] = tmp # NameEror! > > That is, the right hand sides of assignments are evaluated before the > left hand sides. That is (somehow?) not the case here. You are parsing "a = b = c" as "a = (b = c)" which works in a language in which assignment is an expression, but does not work in Python where assignment is a statement. You have to parse it more as "(a = b) = c" but that does not work since then the first '=' is not what it seems. It is more like "(both a and b) = c". Perhaps best to expand "a = b = c" to "a = c; b = c" and see the first as an abbreviation thereof -- just delete the 'c;'. If I have ever used this sort of multiple assignment, it has been for simple unambiguous things like "a = b = 0". -- Terry Jan Reedy