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On Mon, 11 May 2015 07:56:56 -0700 (PDT), zipher
<dreamingforward@gmail.com> declaimed the following:

>No.  Here's where I must disagree.  I think one can infer a goal for particular programming languages, even if it is subconscious.  For example, with LISP it could be "generality".  For C, it could be "staying as close to the machine as possible while maximizing the use to humans" -- contradiction that works because they've limited their architecture to VonNeumann (stackless) machines.
>
	Pardon?

	VonNeumann architecture has nothing to do with stacks -- it is a
machine in which the instructions and data share storage and access (bus).
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