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From: Daniel Wilcox <dmw@yubasolutions.com>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Subject: Re: crash while using PyCharm / Python3
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 17:05:26 -0700
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Hi Adam, from my mail client sent to python-list directly -- actually
attempting to reply to the OP in the past has generated some weirdness and
bounced messages (probably Gmail attempting to stop me from replying-all
with the OP in the TO line rather than the list.  But the behavior you
mentioned is quite odd.

Here are some message headers I was just looking at, and pasting here to
debug.

1 - Adam (OP)

Message-ID: <ncikss$tks$1@news.albasani.net>

no references

list vars included

2 - from me
Message-ID: <CAGq7KhppQtrEe4dvj0SerYZf=_hgO7Aith-TTuHTix81Q+vnoQ@mail.gmail.com>

no references

no list vars included


3 - OP

Message-ID: <ncp8r1$ofd$1@news.albasani.net>
References: <ncikss$tks$1@news.albasani.net>

list vars included

4 - Dirk

Message-ID: <56f03080$0$5924$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>

no references

list vars included



5 - OP

Message-ID: <ncpccs$vf1$1@news.albasani.net>
References: <ncikss$tks$1@news.albasani.net> <ncp8r1$ofd$1@news.albasani.net>

list vars included

6 - OP
Message-ID: <ncpdt2$2t3$1@news.albasani.net>
References: <ncikss$tks$1@news.albasani.net> <ncp8r1$ofd$1@news.albasani.net>
 <56f03080$0$5924$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>

7 - OP
Message-ID: <ncpev8$51d$1@news.albasani.net>
References: <ncikss$tks$1@news.albasani.net> <ncp8r1$ofd$1@news.albasani.net>
 <56f03080$0$5924$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>

8 - Jonathan

Message-ID: <ncpjj0$7ug$1@dont-email.me>
References: <ncikss$tks$1@news.albasani.net> <ncp8r1$ofd$1@news.albasani.net>
 <56f03080$0$5924$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
 <ncpev8$51d$1@news.albasani.net>

9 - OP
Message-ID: <ncprqb$tl9$1@news.albasani.net>
References: <ncikss$tks$1@news.albasani.net> <ncp8r1$ofd$1@news.albasani.net>
 <56f03080$0$5924$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <ncpev8$51d$1@news.albasani.net>
 <ncpjj0$7ug$1@dont-email.me>

10 - OP
Message-ID: <ncq42h$b8v$1@news.albasani.net>
References: <ncikss$tks$1@news.albasani.net> <ncp8r1$ofd$1@news.albasani.net>
 <56f03080$0$5924$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <ncpev8$51d$1@news.albasani.net>
 <ncpjj0$7ug$1@dont-email.me> <ncprqb$tl9$1@news.albasani.net>

... my next reply

In-Reply-To: <ncrg2v$jo$2@dont-email.me>
References: <ncikss$tks$1@news.albasani.net>
	<ncp8r1$ofd$1@news.albasani.net>
	<56f03080$0$5924$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
	<ncpev8$51d$1@news.albasani.net>
	<ncpjj0$7ug$1@dont-email.me>
	<ncprqb$tl9$1@news.albasani.net>
	<ncq42h$b8v$1@news.albasani.net>
	<ncqc7j$na1$1@dont-email.me>
	<ncqsui$r9q$1@news.albasani.net>
	<ncrg2v$jo$2@dont-email.me>

and Big Bad Bob by far had the funniest headers (right after my last msg)

References: <ncikss$tks$1@news.albasani.net> <ncp8r1$ofd$1@news.albasani.net>
 <56f03080$0$5924$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <ncpev8$51d$1@news.albasani.net>
 <ncpjj0$7ug$1@dont-email.me> <ncprqb$tl9$1@news.albasani.net>
 <ncq42h$b8v$1@news.albasani.net>
In-Reply-To: <ncq42h$b8v$1@news.albasani.net>
X-Why-Are-You-Looking-Here: Jedi Business, move along
X-Testing: of course!
Message-ID: <mp6dnaVAhbnh6GzLnZ2dnUU7-Y_NnZ2d@earthlink.com>


and the message I'm currently replying to ...

Message-ID: <ncvpqo$jul$1@news.albasani.net>
References: <ncikss$tks$1@news.albasani.net>



So I see a few patterns here -- mostly my Message-IDs never appear in any
References so I'd imagine something building a thread of the messages
wouldn't include mine.  But that makes me worry about delivery or at least
properly threading in other clients as well.

I'm not sure why that is it could be using Gmail for my domain or the Gmail
client itself leaving off the List headers that all the other messages
appear to have.  I might need to try my Mutt config on this account to see
if I get different behavior.

Of course it could be that I'm not seeing all the headers I should on my
own messages, or referring to my messages, because in that case perhaps
Gmail is joining messages in my Sent folder with the thread in another
manner.

I should really get this fixed, it's probably not a good thing to have the
messages vanishing from archives and the like.  If you have a few minutes
and can check Message-IDs and references and other headers from my emails
that'd be awesome and might help me track down what is going on.

Thanks for mentioning this!  Cheers,

=D

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:18 PM, Adam <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote:

>
> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> news:ncikss$tks$1@news.albasani.net...
> >
> > Host OS:    Ubuntu Desktop 14.04 LTS / Unity
> >
> > System crashed while using PyCharm / Python3.
> > Booting takes forever and stuck at the purple screen with
> > the Ubuntu logo and the five dots cycling.
> > How to fix?
> >
>
> Searching for this thread in a browser lead to
> the code.activestate.com website where
> I see posts from Daniel Wilcox.
> But, in my newsreader, I do not see his posts,
> which is why his posts are not getting any response.
> Daniel, how/where are you responding to this thread?
>
>
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>