Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.032 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.02; 'subject:Django': 0.03; 'that?': 0.05; 'referring': 0.07; 'claimed': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:EuroPython': 0.09; 'django': 0.11; 'finney': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'raise': 0.29; 'writes:': 0.31; 'should': 0.36; 'ben': 0.38; 'others.': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'name': 0.63; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.65; 'nobody': 0.68; 'audience': 0.74; 'further,': 0.74; 'kennedy': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'termed': 0.84; 'workshop.': 0.84; 'girls': 0.91; 'philips': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: EuroPython 2015: Django Girls Workshop Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 08:04:25 +1000 References: <87618uzec1.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9t4PJZ8FkCygliIiUksVrMNXPvQ= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1429308276 news.xs4all.nl 2862 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60547 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:89094 Marko Rauhamaa writes: > beliavsky@aol.com: > > > If your target audience is women, I think you should have termed it > > the Django Womens Workshop rather than the Django Girls Workshop. > > Referring to adults as children can be seen as condescending. > > You got it wrong. The name is not offensive. It is not for you to say what is offensive to others. Further, nobody claimed it is “offensive”, so why raise that? The claim is that to call women “girls” is condenscending. -- \ “People always ask me, ‘Where were you when Kennedy was shot?’ | `\ Well, I don't have an alibi.” —Emo Philips | _o__) | Ben Finney