Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!tudelft.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!multikabel.net!newsfeed20.multikabel.net!amsnews11.chello.com!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.013 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:based': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; 'content-type:multipart/signed': 0.09; 'filename:fname piece:signature': 0.09; 'hits': 0.09; 'myself,': 0.09; 'optionally': 0.09; 'prevents': 0.09; '"python': 0.15; '(which,': 0.16; '*do*': 0.16; 'content-type:application/pgp- signature': 0.16; 'docs.': 0.16; 'filename:fname piece:asc': 0.16; 'filename:fname:signature.asc': 0.16; 'overly': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:syntax': 0.16; "wouldn't": 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'pointed': 0.21; "doesn't": 0.22; 'asked': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.22; 'helpful': 0.26; "i'm": 0.26; 'function': 0.27; 'mind.': 0.29; 'looks': 0.29; 'url:wiki': 0.29; '"python"': 0.30; 'quoting': 0.30; 'syntax,': 0.30; 'chris': 0.30; '(as': 0.31; 'ok,': 0.31; "didn't": 0.31; 'actual': 0.32; "isn't": 0.33; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.34; 'it.': 0.34; 'engine,': 0.34; 'searches': 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'google': 0.35; 'subject:/': 0.35; 'url:python': 0.36; 'none': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'page': 0.37; 'received:192': 0.37; 'think': 0.37; 'received:128': 0.37; 'using': 0.38; 'steven': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'received:192.168.0': 0.38; 'went': 0.38; 'url:en': 0.39; 'url:org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'might': 0.40; 'received:192.168': 0.40; 'your': 0.61; 'expert': 0.62; 'link': 0.63; 'reply': 0.65; 'here': 0.65; "google's": 0.68; 'enjoy': 0.69; 'friend': 0.69; 'relevant': 0.70; 'virtually': 0.73; 'article': 0.74; 'borne': 0.84; 'kills': 0.84; 'searches:': 0.84 Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:56:17 -0600 From: Evan Driscoll User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Pythonification of the asterisk-based collection packing/unpacking syntax References: <841f4d29-f50b-4b0b-912b-b497fb6e60ec@t16g2000vba.googlegroups.com> <15424060.724.1324183952802.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prix23> <4eed96c9$0$29979$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: <4eed96c9$0$29979$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE8CD25F628108B74DD9F147A" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 64 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1324238220 news.xs4all.nl 6923 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39895 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:17475 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE8CD25F628108B74DD9F147A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/18/2011 1:31, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > And rebutted. Modesty[1] prevents me from quoting myself, but here are = > some links to searches: > > http://duckduckgo.com/?q=3Dpython+asterisk > http://duckduckgo.com/?q=3Dpython+* OK, so if you search using the right search engine, you *might* get a link to the Python docs. (As I pointed out in a reply to myself before, you *do* get relevant hits with my Google searches as well, but virtually nothing to the relevant Python documentation.) My thinking is borne out; I asked a friend who didn't know what it did to find out, and he went to Google with the search "python 'starred argument'", which he said led to moderately helpful results, but again none from the actual Python docs. > My normal first place to look for something is Wikipedia. Enjoy it befo= re=20 > SOPA kills it. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterisk#Programming_languages I might think to look at the Wikipedia article for *Python* (which, by the way, doesn't help); looking at the wikipedia page for *asterisk* wouldn't even enter my mind. > Your search looks overly complicated to me. > > I'm not an expert on Google's syntax, but if you search for "python,=20 > optionally with function", isn't that the same as just searching for=20 > "python" since it will return hits either with or without "function"? Chris Angelico's interpretation is correct: I did four searches, "python function star", "python function asterisk", "python star", and "python asterisk". 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