Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'rewrite': 0.07; 'sql.': 0.07; 'alternatives': 0.09; 'complicate': 0.09; 'ide': 0.09; 'postgresql.': 0.09; 'sql,': 0.09; 'subject:software': 0.09; 'python.': 0.11; 'language,': 0.11; 'appropriate': 0.14; 'apps': 0.15; 'subject: \n ': 0.15; 'anymore': 0.16; 'choose,': 0.16; 'from:addr:torriem': 0.16; 'from:name:michael torrie': 0.16; 'interacting': 0.16; 'subject:program': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'gui': 0.18; 'programmer': 0.18; 'runs': 0.18; 'java': 0.22; '2.x': 0.22; 'libraries': 0.22; 'trying': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'tutorials': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'figure': 0.27; 'helpful': 0.27; 'define': 0.27; 'mostly': 0.27; 'dos': 0.27; 'said,': 0.27; 'start,': 0.27; "i'm": 0.30; 'subject:/': 0.30; 'that.': 0.30; 'creating': 0.30; 'software,': 0.32; 'skip:d 40': 0.32; 'useful': 0.33; 'combination': 0.33; "i'll": 0.33; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.34; 'running': 0.34; 'widely': 0.35; 'knowledge': 0.35; 'quite': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'step': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'too': 0.36; 'skip:i 20': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'things': 0.38; 'version': 0.38; 'several': 0.38; 'files': 0.38; 'google': 0.39; 'why': 0.39; 'received:192': 0.39; 'well.': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'software': 0.40; 'future': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'suitable': 0.61; 'skip:u 10': 0.61; 'internet,': 0.61; 'programs': 0.62; 'back': 0.62; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'engines': 0.63; 'different': 0.63; 'choose': 0.68; 'business': 0.69; 'subject:wants': 0.76; 'beside': 0.84; 'dozens': 0.84; 'hurry,': 0.84; 'subject:Old': 0.84; 'subject:over': 0.84; 'do:': 0.91; 'relate': 0.91 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at torriefamily.org Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 11:07:12 -0600 From: Michael Torrie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Old DbaseV DOS Programmer wants to step over to new/actual modern program software References: <12bc0fae-7331-48f2-80fb-831b210cd90d@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <12bc0fae-7331-48f2-80fb-831b210cd90d@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 45 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1439744845 news.xs4all.nl 2863 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52644 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:95404 On 08/16/2015 10:40 AM, AGOSTINHO TEIXEIRA wrote: > I'm a 25year DBASE-5 DOS programmer and want/have to step over to new > program/platform software, because there is no future anymore for DOS > after W-XP, I've been looking around for alternatives and cannot > figure out where to start, I already have been learning the SQL with > SSMS database system/script this is very important because I work > mostly with large databases invoicing/stock/statements etc. I always > manage my users with design-programs,windows-input,files-views, using > custom made windows/input. I did all this in *.prg files with > hard-coding. I have some ideas in mind like Java with (ECLIPS) > because it is very popular, it is the most widely used and can get > tutorials and videos all over the internet. I've read a lot of good > things about Python, that it is much easier but too complicate to > define what to choose, at the first place witch version 2.x or 3.x, a > lot of IDE's to choose from, beside of that witch IDE with what > pluggin. I'll need something suitable to manage/manipulate M-SQL. I > have a lot of programs to rewrite and not much time, that's why it is > very important to me to start with something appropriate with the > best software combination that I can learn completely from the > internet, cannot go back to the classroom, too old for that. I > appreciate very much that any of you can help me to figure out to > choose the right software combination for my new project. > Thanks....! > Here're a couple of interesting projects that I found on a google search that might relate to what you're trying to do: http://www.python-camelot.com/ http://kivy.org/ But like the other poster said, take some time to learn a new language, such as Python. Things can get complicated in a hurry, but if you have a solid understanding of the language, it's doable. Also it is helpful if you have a good working knowledge of SQL. SQL is useful when interacting with a variety of database engines such as MS SQL, or a freely available one like PostgreSQL. Then there are dozens of different database access libraries and abstractions you can choose from such as SQLAlchemy. And for creating a GUI there are several different toolkits. As for the future of DOS, existing DOS programs including your DBASE-5 apps should continue running indefinitely with the wonderful DOSBox program: http://www.dosbox.com/. While it's aimed at running games, it runs business apps quite well.