Path: csiph.com!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: alex wright Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: How to become more motivated to learn Python Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 07:37:56 -0400 Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <1780e532-e316-4d9f-951d-cc9147209e97@googlegroups.com> <6e2d9770eddbc7a71c2a63851bce14b7@kapsi.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de rL4VJxMgpA0MOw0jIbuoxAw/bIwzPYv2DnO5LGVfp0Eg== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.005 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'motivated': 0.05; '(especially': 0.07; 'subject:How': 0.09; 'percentage': 0.09; 'retained': 0.09; 'tutorials,': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'languages.': 0.15; '(either': 0.16; '2016': 0.16; 'assignments.': 0.16; 'finish.': 0.16; 'flow.': 0.16; 'partly': 0.16; 'rather,': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'say,': 0.18; 'stick': 0.18; 'language': 0.19; 'trying': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'written': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'paul': 0.24; 'skip:- 40': 0.25; 'figure': 0.27; 'question': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'tend': 0.27; 'actual': 0.28; 'motivation': 0.29; 'books': 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'related': 0.32; 'language.': 0.32; 'problem': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'done,': 0.33; 'retain': 0.33; 'url:listinfo': 0.34; 'skip:& 20': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'text': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'sometimes': 0.35; 'unit': 0.35; 'step': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'beyond': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'rather': 0.39; 'resources': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'field': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'subject:more': 0.61; 'programs': 0.62; 'per': 0.62; 'flat': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'personal': 0.63; 'times': 0.63; 'interest': 0.64; "they're": 0.66; 'completed': 0.69; 'frustrated': 0.72; 'yourself': 0.73; 'route': 0.84; 'subject:learn': 0.84; 'tough': 0.95 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=iAQIK+HMSjBqL7fl9FQ/Q50NUl2+OyQAiQWeXydYyFA=; b=ChSRdeeJt+tl86ZAez37sfabEtTScHOygQuk1ZkESpfDh+RF0EfGGRYstHtK4PfSGW 94J6a11CBUDS8F1PCEwwY+o/mvg/+jneLQmb8TWh3YSWr6Cy6dvWLVwGerwcTFPko9oL zQ1gM13Lc+WHEasVfUYzyatkEnfpDzHgwo/mMye8UlFBIkOa5ajJcI3C/yxrzICMbR5o 9WBZ7/ttU+ew8/arCA/WrLT26HwdC/WMrOB9P/KcJfAbjXgYvJSLds8Dnc5e9D9hLTKR RQBxtvnnJEqQGaVjWfVBZssCw8zJRg5het3T7DxefVOTtSawV+pHhPA9wOvGxsJzfy0D os+w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=iAQIK+HMSjBqL7fl9FQ/Q50NUl2+OyQAiQWeXydYyFA=; b=RfzRm4J1s8LQg67hR4Eohw0wypbG4rnVW7Q2HQwQAA/FIedSLeU/0WuPAcZHjlh8Gh /cGBynB4qevvxdPFuhPowotvNM7RAb1n66N4Q5BjY0b31MR9kUgQiPrMZMroE4/w9jtc vAsxEv4+M4TvY0vLvruJmVl78fD3va9TH/RUVe/ZxpPcfveAm8kffLTiquhlz7rRFf4X NT00FGSpF8EBntuLxrxKKJq7IYx1+NrenAd98nlDwFB5+hbyw6zkoxMCygUbH5pdPpnu ckQ2BfVIYj9T/KtkOFdWIT+CmjuLTkmsU45SFX+vqcL5s1ngNt4Y/rXUJVSl/TNPNsM8 6GiA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FV+njnZ389Kf0GFf2FDtqmjMmrj54a51MJGqxJh8vbY4gRDfCq6PAvp1WtbJoEVDttQJ46WzepUaEZFQw== X-Received: by 10.107.165.134 with SMTP id o128mr10221310ioe.28.1462361876396; Wed, 04 May 2016 04:37:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6e2d9770eddbc7a71c2a63851bce14b7@kapsi.fi> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <1780e532-e316-4d9f-951d-cc9147209e97@googlegroups.com> <6e2d9770eddbc7a71c2a63851bce14b7@kapsi.fi> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:108129 Beyond motivation, it's not likely just reading a flat text will be retained meaningfully without creative problem solving. Personal projects are the best route in my opinion. I like reading technical books but I figure I retain a small percentage of the specifics. On May 4, 2016 6:32 AM, "mviljamaa" wrote: > I tend to not have the patience to go through programming tutorials, > because I think they're boring. I sometimes use them as reference to see or > recall how something is done, but I don't step through them in order to > learn a language. > > Rather, I write programs to learn programming and languages. It's easier > if you have some background in programming in some other language. > > I merely pick personal projects that interest me and then try to develop > them to finish. I seek resources that help me do what I need to. > > I think it's easier to be motivated in actual projects that interest you, > rather than programming assignments. > > -Matti > > Cai Gengyang kirjoitti 2016-05-03 14:20: > >> So I have completed up to CodeAcademy's Python Unit 2 , now moving on >> to Unit3 : Conditionals and Control Flow. >> >> But I feel my motivation wavering , at times I get stuck and >> frustrated when trying to learn a new programming language ? >> >> This might not be a technical question per say, but it is a Python >> programming related one. How do you motivate a person (either yourself >> or your child) to become more interested in programming and stick with >> it ? Is determination in learning (especially in a tough field like >> software) partly genetic ? >> >> Related , This is a very well written essay on determination by Paul >> Graham >> ---------------------------------------- >> http://www.paulgraham.com/determination.html >> >> Gengyang >> > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list >