Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.chainon-marquant.org!news-transit.tcx.org.uk!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.058 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.88; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:based': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; 'received:209.85.210.174': 0.13; 'received:mail- iy0-f174.google.com': 0.13; '"python': 0.15; 'driscoll': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'overly': 0.16; 'simplest': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:syntax': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'maybe': 0.21; 'dec': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; "python's": 0.24; 'sat,': 0.25; 'expect': 0.26; 'function': 0.27; 'tools,': 0.28; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'looks': 0.29; 'print': 0.29; 'pm,': 0.29; 'url:wiki': 0.29; 'sun,': 0.30; 'matching': 0.32; 'sort': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.34; 'it.': 0.34; 'searches': 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'subject:/': 0.35; 'especially': 0.35; 'two': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'steven': 0.38; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'url:en': 0.39; "i'd": 0.39; 'url:org': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'more': 0.61; '2011': 0.61; 'your': 0.61; 'power': 0.63; 'minutes': 0.66; 'site.': 0.67; 'enjoy': 0.69; 'article': 0.74; 'article,': 0.84; 'asterisk': 0.84; 'doubt,': 0.84; 'kills': 0.84; 'searches:': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=nhz5v+LFBtUo0I+vztt3kLW6DKGuwsl7UDxJ3Mf5u08=; b=jmHy7TiH5g3vDbE1Mn0RmLicz7bMRmJ9hzFmvNHEFupqPAkRBEFM7V+r8LF/LR0uKU hShO3WYVEeZXjHb/hn92cc4QZiNv78QDIBaYuEcKhwU0DIKBmB8RTmf5mWXbaPltMBty LwQsVtoPwX5A8SGSK7HJAN3xmK54l/k+HEZcI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4eed96c9$0$29979$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <841f4d29-f50b-4b0b-912b-b497fb6e60ec@t16g2000vba.googlegroups.com> <15424060.724.1324183952802.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prix23> <4eed96c9$0$29979$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:43:09 +1100 Subject: Re: Pythonification of the asterisk-based collection packing/unpacking syntax From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1324197792 news.xs4all.nl 6878 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59377 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:17442 On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > My normal first place to look for something is Wikipedia. Enjoy it before > SOPA kills it. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterisk#Programming_languages I would never expect to find this sort of thing in the article on the asterisk; maybe I'd look on the language's article, but more likely I would be looking for info on the language's own web site. > On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:33:27 -0600, Evan Driscoll wrote: >> In the first pages >> of the four searches matching "python (function)? (star | asterisk)", > > Your search looks overly complicated to me. I understand this to mean that he did four searches: * python star * python function star * python asterisk * python function asterisk > Never underestimate the power of Python's introspection tools, especially > the two simplest ones: print and type. Often you will learn more in 10 > minutes experimentation than in an hour googling. +1 QOTW. I refer to this as "IIDPIO debugging" (Eyed Pio) - If In Doubt, Print It Out. ChrisA