Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!feed.xsnews.nl!border-2.ams.xsnews.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; '"""': 0.05; 'correspond': 0.07; 'undefined': 0.07; 'defined.': 0.09; 'friday,': 0.09; 'indicates': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'undefined.': 0.09; 'combinations': 0.16; 'email addr:yelp.com': 0.16; 'iso/iec': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'unicode': 0.17; 'bit': 0.21; 'example': 0.23; 'specified': 0.23; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'represent': 0.28; 'fri,': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'url:home': 0.33; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.33; 'nov': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'table': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'characters': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'does': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'url:docs': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'positions': 0.68; 'standards,': 0.84; 'url:dk': 0.84; 'dennis': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: latin1 and cp1252 inconsistent? Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 01:48:01 -0500 Organization: > Bestiaria Support Staff < References: <4c683e33-d6cb-480c-a6da-20e3523c2103@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-76-249-23-52.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1353221294 news.xs4all.nl 6845 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48278 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:33492 On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:27:54 -0800 (PST), buck@yelp.com declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: > On Friday, November 16, 2012 2:34:32 PM UTC-8, Ian wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:44 PM, wrote: > > > > > Latin1 has a block of 32 undefined characters. > > > > > > These characters are not undefined. 0x80-0x9f are the C1 control > > codes in Latin-1, much as 0x00-0x1f are the C0 control codes, and > > their Unicode mappings are well defined. > > They are indeed undefined: ftp://std.dkuug.dk/JTC1/sc2/wg3/docs/n411.pdf > > """ The shaded positions in the code table correspond > to bit combinations that do not represent graphic > characters. Their use is outside the scope of > ISO/IEC 8859; it is specified in other International > Standards, for example ISO/IEC 6429. > This quote only states that those position do not represent displayable glyphs, and indicates the 8859 is only concerned with codings for display. It does NOT say they are "undefined". -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/