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Subject: Meta Fight About Posting (was: python programming help)
From: Travis Griggs <travisgriggs@gmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 07:44:08 -0800
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On Dec 9, 2013, at 1:34 AM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> =
wrote:

> On 09/12/2013 05:07, rurpy@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On 12/08/2013 05:27 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>> On 09/12/2013 00:08, rurpy@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> On 12/08/2013 12:17 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:06 AM,  <rafaellasav@gmail.com> =
wrote:>[...]
>>> [...]
>>> To the OP, please ignore the above, it's sheer, unadulterated =
rubbish.
>>> Nobody has ever been bullied into doing anything.  People have =
however
>>> been asked repeatedly to either A) use the link referenced above to
>>> avoid sending double spaced crap here from the inferior google =
groups
>>> product or B) use an alternative technology that doesn't send double
>>> spaced crap.
>>=20
>> Mark, I appreciate your calm and reasonable requests for people
>> to checkout the page you gave a link to, that's why I repeated
>> your advice.  It is also why I responded to Chris and not to you.
>>=20
>> However it does not change the fact that people here have responded
>> in rather extreme way to GG posts including calling GG users "twits"
>> and claiming GG posts damage their eyesight, as well as repeatedly
>> denying the obvious fact that GG is much easier to use for many than
>> to subscribe to a usenet provider or to a mailing list.  One =
frequently
>> sees words like "crap", "slimy", "rubbish" etc to describe GG posts
>> which is pretty intimating to people who just want some help with a
>> python question using a tool they already know how to use and have
>> had no complaints about in other places.
>>=20
>=20
> Well you can ask iMath, amongst others, not to send double spaced =
google nonsense.  They've been asked repeatedly, politely, but =
apparently have no consideration at all for people who have no interest =
in seeing this ill formed dross spread throughout web land.

As long as we=92re in full scale rant drift, I=92d like to remind others =
of the time honored tradition of changing the post subject, when, er, =
uh, the subject changes. Because this obviously is not "programming =
help" anymore.

The python mailing list is the only one I know of that is cross posted =
between 3 different technologies. Maybe it=92s an outgrowth of the =
=93multi paradigm=94 philosophy of python or something.

It would be an interesting experiment, to shut down the cross forum =
replication engines for a month. Personally, I think they should each =
thrive, or die, on their own. If there=92s enough mass on the groups to =
answer the occasional one off question, it=92ll go on, indifferent of =
the existence of the mailing list. Comp.lang.python can truly become a =
troll haven. :) And the mailing list can be for the more thorough =
threads, or something.

If you=92re worried about =93fragmentation=94=85 these weekly rants seem =
to indicate it=92s happened anyway, and the impedance mismatch between =
styles/technologies/formats is generating more heat from friction than =
it is contributing light to the cross-sharing. Besides, there=92s =
nothing stopping periodic posts being sent to any of the sites saying =
=93by the way, did you know there=92s also a mailing list=85=94

The nice thing about doing it for a month (or so), is that it=92s not a =
=93huge disturbance in the force.=94  If it stinks, you turn them back =
on in a month (or so).

<tongue  in=3D=93cheek=94>If you=92re still not sold, and find yourself =
solidly in the =93keep it all together=94 group, I propose, we embrace =
that idea, and set up a bi-directional engine between the IRC channel =
(which I=92ve found very helpful often) and the mailing list. </>=