Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'pycon': 0.03; 'patterns': 0.04; 'root': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'beginner': 0.05; 'nested': 0.07; 'raised': 0.07; 'subject:help': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'counting': 0.09; 'determines': 0.09; 'raised.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'anyway': 0.11; '1234': 0.16; '4321': 0.16; 'clear.': 0.16; 'computes': 0.16; 'integers,': 0.16; 'loops': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'result:': 0.16; 'subject:questions': 0.16; 'wed,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'input': 0.18; '(or': 0.18; 'example': 0.23; 'programming': 0.23; "i've": 0.23; 'tried': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'values': 0.26; 'separate': 0.27; 'i.e.': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; '"do': 0.29; '(possibly': 0.29; 'lessons': 0.29; 'points': 0.29; 'read,': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'maybe': 0.29; 'asked': 0.33; 'problem': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'thanks': 0.34; 'along': 0.35; 'nov': 0.35; "won't": 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'programmers': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'display': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'positive': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'end': 0.40; 'think': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'skip:n 10': 0.63; 'making': 0.64; 'become': 0.65; 'total': 0.65; 'watching': 0.65; 'audience': 0.71; 'born': 0.71; 'square': 0.75; '321': 0.84; 'musical': 0.84; 'programs:': 0.84; 'received:sd.cox.net': 0.84; 'unclear': 0.84; 'gift': 0.89; '"how': 0.91; 'average': 0.93; 'instrument': 0.95; 'hands': 0.97 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: rh Subject: Re: Python questions help Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:00:54 -0800 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-6-43-149.sb.sd.cox.net User-Agent: dsodnetnin X-Mailer: EZnn0.37p X-Newsreader: EZnn0.37p X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: EZnn0.37p Original-Received: from slem by 1.1 with local X-No-Archive: yes Archive: no X-Archive: expiry=11 X-Archive: encrypt X-Operating-System: Barebones_6.1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 73 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1353089097 news.xs4all.nl 6849 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51296 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:33446 On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:47:33 -0800 (PST) su29090 <129km09@gmail.com> wrote: > I brought a python book and i'm a beginner and I read and tried to do > the questions and I still get it wrong. I am just starting to dabble in python. And just to let you know I was watching a pycon (or somecon) and the speaker asked the audience "How many of you are programmers?" Result: Lots of hands raised. "How many people think programming skills are inherent?" i.e. that some people are just born with the gift to be good programmers Result: very few hands raised maybe a couple (possibly non-progammers??) Anyway there's reason to keep at it and slog your way through to proficiency. Because you will become proficient. It's like reading a book by Neal Stephenson, you read along and say wtf, but you keep reading and things start making some sense....or learning to play a musical instrument or the like. Anyway I've taken a stab at these but I won't be the spoiler. Although I admit that a couple of lessons are unclear to me. For example "Do I get extra points if I don't use nested loops where I don't need them?". Or do I get marked down? I've completed the rows/columns of 123456 and the chessboard but the others are not clear. I did the squareroot problem but that's unclear. > > How to create a program that reads an uspecified number of integers, > that determines how many positive and negative values have been read, > and computes the total and average of the input values(not counting > zeroes). My program have to end with the input 0 and have to display > the average as a floating-point number. > > > Use nested loops that display the following patterns in separate > programs: > > 1 > 12 > 123 > 1234 > 12345 > 123456 > > 123456 > 12345 > 1234 > 123 > 12 > 1 > > 1 > 21 > 321 > 4321 > 54321 > 654321 > > Write a program that computes the following summation: > > 1/ 1+square root of 2 + 1/ 1+square root of 2 + square root of 3 + 1/ > 1+square root of 3 + square root of 4...+ 1/ 1+square root of 624 + > square root of 625 > > How to a program to draw a chessboard using range? > > Thanks --