Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'subject:help': 0.08; 'classes.': 0.09; 'inherited': 0.09; 'interpreted': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'suggestions.': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'language.': 0.14; 'thread': 0.14; "'''": 0.16; 'drifting': 0.16; 'grounds': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:object': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'module': 0.19; 'basically': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'issue.': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'issue,': 0.24; 'tracker': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'raise': 0.29; 'class': 0.32; 'another': 0.32; 'open': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'classes': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'surely': 0.36; 'words,': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'most': 0.60; 'our': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'default': 0.69; 'improved.': 0.84; 'odds': 0.84; 'subject:base': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: interactive help on the base object Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 23:48:57 +0000 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-24-213-99.ppp.as43234.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 37 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1386546562 news.xs4all.nl 2831 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46716 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:61334 On 07/12/2013 01:35, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 12/6/2013 12:03 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> Is it just me, or is this basically useless? >> >> >>> help(object) >> Help on class object in module builtins: >> >> class object >> | The most base type > > Given that this can be interpreted as 'least desirable', it could > definitely be improved. > >> Surely a few more words, > > How about something like. > > '''The default top superclass for all Python classes. > > Its methods are inherited by all classes unless overriden. > ''' > > When you have 1 or more concrete suggestions for the docstring, open a > tracker issue. > Terry's suggestion above remains odds on favourite on the grounds that there have been no other suggestions. I'll give it another day, then raise a tracker issue, unless the overwhelming smell of pot that has been drifting around this thread knocks me unconscious. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence