Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!newsfeed.eweka.nl!eweka.nl!feeder3.eweka.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'operator': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'memory.': 0.05; "'a'": 0.07; 'referring': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; '"int': 0.16; 'filename:fname piece:signature': 0.16; 'sense,': 0.16; 'subject:Objects': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'refers': 0.17; '(or': 0.18; 'variable': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'thus': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'piece': 0.29; 'notes': 0.30; 'point': 0.31; 'allocated': 0.33; 'received:192.168.0': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'does': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'received:192': 0.39; 'received:192.168': 0.40; 'address': 0.60 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 04:14:27 -0500 From: Evan Driscoll User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alex23 Subject: Re: Re: Objects in Python References: <18409992-1e28-4721-8e64-60c69668da4e@googlegroups.com> <87d32i1ntc.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <7df4c317-7ad8-4158-900a-b52f19c3caf2@k9g2000pbr.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <7df4c317-7ad8-4158-900a-b52f19c3caf2@k9g2000pbr.googlegroups.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig91578B0B214906E201BBBDDD" Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1345799734 news.xs4all.nl 6853 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42393 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:27787 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig91578B0B214906E201BBBDDD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 8/23/2012 22:17, alex23 wrote: > But Roy's point was that referring to 'a' as a 'variable' makes no > sense, as it's not an allocated piece of memory. Does the computer just remember what 'a' refers to by keeping notes about it in Narnia? Put it this way. If C removed the & operator -- and thus you couldn't tell what address a variable (or "variable instance", if you prefer) was at -- would "int x;" cease to be a variable? Evan --------------enig91578B0B214906E201BBBDDD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQN0X6AAoJEAOzoR8eZTzgh/UH/1SJ7jGF77RMix7+wrdBl83B HdexeXuDCbksCM01vTUz1kSTxMzaBtZerNnHMHPMqsxaGXZyYq7uTBxoojFbIQpf KrdWs7DoQ8gdAYD7iW0HMEGFZ7l+sIthKLWWWoTgn+cm9PZfZ0y7pdgcsAEqrsss NctarCC4D2+l13ouwsq8adWenJ7mitDLVxm5x+5HEaXJ/KFkwPXo9GdxCvWIShht NMznDuUzojf2hoUDL8NPfensDzvvaCE/jqflMP7BFkx4Ck5Sb619wEgLlxU0+GuJ 5zg9NhojbQ0QOuFqfFFNnJPNJwitdr1k70O8jgviZtJfFwxPf4V5s5aK9RKLPks= =60tv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig91578B0B214906E201BBBDDD--