Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Christopher Reimer Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: How to become more motivated to learn Python Date: Tue, 03 May 2016 19:12:48 -0700 Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <1780e532-e316-4d9f-951d-cc9147209e97@googlegroups.com> <57295AA0.6080203@icloud.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de WRJ93IEBaTju4b832nVAjwcHSmj971pgmTU5i2ObVJmA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.065 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.87; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; '(especially': 0.07; 'subject:How': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'python.': 0.11; '(either': 0.16; 'flow.': 0.16; 'partly': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'implementing': 0.18; 'say,': 0.18; 'stick': 0.18; 'language': 0.19; 'trying': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'academic': 0.23; 'tried': 0.24; 'written': 0.24; 'paul': 0.24; 'skip:- 40': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'chris': 0.26; 'coding': 0.27; 'question': 0.27; 'received:17': 0.27; 'lifetime': 0.29; 'motivation': 0.29; 'received:10.0.0': 0.32; 'related': 0.32; 'received:10.0': 0.34; 'solving': 0.35; 'unit': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'basic': 0.36; "wasn't": 0.36; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'thank': 0.38; 'enough': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'field': 0.60; 'header:MIME-version:1': 0.60; 'ever': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'subject:more': 0.61; 'success': 0.62; 'per': 0.62; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'introduction': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'times': 0.63; 'spend': 0.67; 'completed': 0.69; 'frustrated': 0.72; 'yourself': 0.73; 'header:In-reply-to:1': 0.84; 'literature': 0.84; 'subject:learn': 0.84; '50+': 0.91; 'tough': 0.95 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2016-05-03_11:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1510270003 definitions=main-1605040030 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 In-reply-to: <1780e532-e316-4d9f-951d-cc9147209e97@googlegroups.com> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=icloud.com; s=4d515a; t=1462327966; bh=z0iflmU+jV868e0bbQpYecDi+k9BPkwCVTNEOx6p/mQ=; h=Subject:To:From:Message-id:Date:MIME-version:Content-type; b=rxdFLUNl+S74iyeIglhEtaoB/hkiebrmNBy9XsYo2QETcxPDS3UsQOGWTtGeKzfGM 1yvfGl1+XGcPf8lsi5EN4WrZt3cfWHYDWmcTZhXWn8O72GUcLDv7k0DOiyav+RmgmY d8CdAS9a63/ch64XFND7bU4cAYzNFGHbhVNXkAxIjw+7Ti739EHRVQJPQsCcaA7LzA 74NVIDpddfxEm9F+af7O3XDxZeV5jLq3+zd76iDD81xqrUQY58lePvGXSGyY9kwmXA GWQ3cyGgdWKWIcr56L/PJJIMDDR3g3Hsy3YiHRdJ/8Gc5e/Fw9CMbxSOKQzuVjCQYd 6QGK1rpjK3B/g== X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <57295AA0.6080203@icloud.com> X-Mailman-Original-References: <1780e532-e316-4d9f-951d-cc9147209e97@googlegroups.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:108110 On 5/3/2016 4:20 AM, Cai Gengyang wrote: > So I have completed up to CodeAcademy's Python Unit 2 , now moving on to Unit3 : Conditionals and Control Flow. > > But I feel my motivation wavering , at times I get stuck and frustrated when trying to learn a new programming language ? > > This might not be a technical question per say, but it is a Python programming related one. How do you motivate a person (either yourself or your child) to become more interested in programming and stick with it ? Is determination in learning (especially in a tough field like software) partly genetic ? > > Related , This is a very well written essay on determination by Paul Graham ----------------------------------------http://www.paulgraham.com/determination.html > > Gengyang I started out translating old BASIC games into Python. These are the same BASIC games that I tried to program into my Commodore 64 without much success when I was much younger. Many of these BASIC games are a good introduction to classical programming problems like rolling dice and playing cards. http://www.atariarchives.org/basicgames/ When I realized that I wasn't learning enough about the Python language from translating BASIC games, I started coding a chess engine. If you ever look at the academic literature for chess programming from the last 50+ years, you can spend a lifetime solving the programming challenges from implementing the game of kings. Thank you, Chris R.