Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!ecngs!testfeeder.ecngs.de!newsfeed.freenet.ag!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Terry Reedy Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: [beginner] What's wrong? Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 14:59:40 -0400 Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <99234e90-fcd4-4a05-b97f-b47228dde20c@googlegroups.com> <1459571270.714249.566352882.6ADCD0CC@webmail.messagingengine.com> <87bn5sqcac.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de sNfiKbh99iqcwmObtXrmsgxQzJZs/iXk8rqkzUmw0BLw== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.03; 'anyway.': 0.04; 'versions,': 0.05; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'jan': 0.11; 'char)': 0.16; 'happily': 0.16; 'identifiers': 0.16; 'identifiers.': 0.16; 'non- english': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'routinely': 0.16; 'subject:beginner': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'written,': 0.18; 'programmer': 0.18; 'subject:] ': 0.19; 'am,': 0.23; 'this:': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'sense': 0.26; 'least': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'fine': 0.28; 'looks': 0.29; 'sentence': 0.29; 'code': 0.30; 'guess': 0.31; 'unicode': 0.35; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'received:org': 0.37; 'speak': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'received:96': 0.63; 'different': 0.63; 'yourself': 0.73; '11:07': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.91; 'imagine': 0.96 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-96-227-207-81.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 In-Reply-To: <87bn5sqcac.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:106302 On 4/2/2016 11:07 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > While it is fine for Python to support Unicode to its fullest, I don't > think it's a good idea for a programmer to use non-English identifiers.= Non-English identifiers can written, at least in romanized versions, in=20 ascii. > The (few) keywords are in English anyway. Imagine reading code like > this: > > for oppilas in luokka: > if oppilas.hyl=C3=A4tty(): > oppilas.ilmoita(oppilas.koetulokset) > > which looks nauseating whether you are an English-speaker or > Finnish-speaker. Your sense of nausea is different from others, so speak for yourself (as = you did in the first sentence -- "I don't ..."). People were happily=20 and routinely writing thing like the above (minus the accented char) in=20 2.x. I guess they must have kept your code out of your sight. --=20 Terry Jan Reedy