Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.018 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'socket': 0.05; 'subject:two': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'language': 0.14; 'batteries': 0.16; 'boasts': 0.16; 'included,': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'subject:questions': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'intel': 0.17; 'shape': 0.17; 'thu,': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; 'bit': 0.21; 'struct': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; '15,': 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'machine': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'chris': 0.28; 'run': 0.28; 'pile': 0.29; "can't": 0.34; 'nov': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'modules': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'received:192': 0.39; 'received:192.168': 0.40; 'think': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'networking': 0.60; 'real': 0.61; 'header :Reply-To:1': 0.68; 'facilities': 0.69; 'received:74.208': 0.71; 'smith': 0.71; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.72; 'article': 0.78; 'assemble': 0.84; 'processor.': 0.84 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:55:20 -0500 From: Dave Angel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121011 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Angelico Subject: Re: Subprocess puzzle and two questions References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:Xz0+LEd1PM3lRGY1QEAy7la8U/pOk8B4Iedo6fOwMr7 z+q4aqTtZhuL01xOVGD4p3BYb9ylwJXj1j9sFmrmPmJtdS8JSA /lcOHfatbxg14hIp9lXFsVonAyUTlN2XPHwt5t7oTttDaczK82 N2/t85Vpz4Bhlz/T2u+sLYjFNQw98sBRoFK7dCVichXul1JHs3 VwJhryT+aEUAQMGKwgBzLNPzys398MmGoqjKtvsdZ8hoqaqa/S pbb6jm9LdPxZ4pUshC2kTIrMxCbjWI495T6KgBsf0CPrirRTD2 heLklvMVcmtvEMXecESYVmoXg3oNVEpU0nxYGzsY7qfyzPBOg= = Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: d@davea.name List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1352948147 news.xs4all.nl 6949 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58553 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:33369 On 11/14/2012 09:21 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Roy Smith wrote: >> In article , >> Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> Indeed. But Python boasts that the batteries are included, and given >>> the wealth of other networking facilities that are available, it is a >>> bit of a hole that you can't run DNS queries in this way. >> Think of the socket and struct modules as a pile of carbon rods and gobs >> of zinc paste, from which you can assemble your own batteries, and make >> them in exactly the shape and size you need. > Then assembly language is a pile of protons, neutrons, and electrons... And real machine language (microcode) is a pile of quarks; fermions versus bosons. But in recent years, you pretty much have to work at Intel to see that part of the processor. -- DaveA