Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.etla.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.037 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'correct.': 0.07; 'ascii': 0.09; 'claimed': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'sentence': 0.09; 'thats': 0.09; 'fails.': 0.16; 'mathematics.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'statement.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'mathematical': 0.24; 'received:comcast.net': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'convince': 0.31; 'universal': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; "i'd": 0.34; 'december': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'doubt': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'wrong': 0.37; 'level': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'list,': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'realize': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; 'times': 0.62; 'making': 0.63; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'here': 0.66; 'details,': 0.68; 'deeply': 0.69; 'therefore': 0.72; 'claim.': 0.84; 'subject:Managing': 0.84; 'rusi': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ned Batchelder Subject: Re: Managing Google Groups headaches Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 12:04:30 -0500 References: <5f370a06-8d2c-4d7d-bc22-b9a489c15c59@googlegroups.com> <132658ff-d06a-4136-ade6-353189da5769@googlegroups.com> <51007240-6bc9-4f0b-9937-4883bcc0ceb6@googlegroups.com> <5137f9a5-d0a0-4f7a-8d50-e464094392e2@googlegroups.com> <31f1bb84-1432-446c-a7d4-79ce16f2a543@googlegroups.com> <4f2f52f7-4f6f-4944-9d61-86f676f0ae82@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-50-133-228-126.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 In-Reply-To: <4f2f52f7-4f6f-4944-9d61-86f676f0ae82@googlegroups.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 37 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1386435884 news.xs4all.nl 2878 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58628 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:61250 On 12/7/13 11:27 AM, rusi wrote: > On Saturday, December 7, 2013 3:46:02 PM UTC+5:30, wxjm...@gmail.com wrote: >> Rusi: > >> "unicode as a medium is universal in the same way that >> ASCII used to be" > >> Probably, you do not realize deeply how this sentence >> is correct. Unicode and ascii are constructed in the >> same way. It has not even to do with "characters", but >> with mathematics. > > On the contrary, I'd say we have some rather interesting > 'characters' out here. > >> It is on this level the FSR fails. It is mathematically >> wrong by design! > > Now thats an even more interesting statement. Only not sure what it means > Here are some attempts > > It is wrong therefore unmathematical > It is designed so its wrong > It is mathematical so its undesigned > > Any Ive missed?? > JMF: Please stop making this claim. The last 20 times you claimed it you didn't convince anyone on this list, and I doubt you have any new information. Rusi: if you are interested in the details, search the archives. -- Ned Batchelder, http://nedbatchelder.com