Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail
From: MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Subject: Re: Operator Precedence/Boolean Logic
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 17:58:41 +0100
Lines: 16
Message-ID: <mailman.37.1468688329.2307.python-list@python.org>
References: <15997174-44d5-431c-8f90-a8d700921820@googlegroups.com> <576B9B33.2030903@rece.vub.ac.be> <07e13a5d-38bf-7bfa-f45f-a24dea8e3004@online.de> <mailman.59.1466670482.11516.python-list@python.org> <576ba927$0$1504$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87wplgfdb5.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <dt8gr5FkccbU1@mid.individual.net> <4c257ef7-519f-4121-b63b-fb38566072d0@googlegroups.com> <5773c832$0$1598$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <c32a4369-706b-40bc-8a8b-410b4a29df20@googlegroups.com> <57745c6d$0$1583$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <d60e179a-c244-48c1-8438-03ad63292897@googlegroups.com> <5775555f$0$22140$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <7ecde6d0-d3db-4a7a-8de6-65b398fedafe@googlegroups.com> <578a0992$0$1610$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <CAPTjJmpRO+V+6s8RebvTkUu=7DqWPbM5ycgSZkhsZ7ebsPz6Dw@mail.gmail.com> <mailman.33.1468665977.2307.python-list@python.org> <d3a23120-ad47-4e46-b6ce-4311ae003712@googlegroups.com> <578a605f$0$1611$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <0d294d49-2cf0-84be-ebcd-af1d0ffc7222@mrabarnett.plus.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de P2oBcnMgKRrwu7tVcx1lqgkSMcu6p5af2UVWKgLuGPpg==
Return-Path: <python@mrabarnett.plus.com>
X-Original-To: python-list@python.org
Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org
X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004
X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'python': 0.10; '"is': 0.16; '2016': 0.16; 'angels,': 0.16; 'argument.': 0.16; 'distinct': 0.16; 'distinction.': 0.16; 'from:addr:mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:python': 0.16; 'from:name:mrab': 0.16; 'message-id:@mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'objections': 0.16; 'received:192.168.1.4': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'argue': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'subject:/': 0.30; 'code': 0.30; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'could': 0.35; 'false': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:192': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'jul': 0.72
X-CM-Score: 0.00
X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=dMLko6Rb c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:117 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=cx293WCC35Ef1cnwkJAA:9
X-AUTH: mrabarnett@:2500
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0
In-Reply-To: <578a605f$0$1611$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com>
X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/>
List-Post: <mailto:python-list@python.org>
List-Help: <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe>
X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <0d294d49-2cf0-84be-ebcd-af1d0ffc7222@mrabarnett.plus.com>
X-Mailman-Original-References: <15997174-44d5-431c-8f90-a8d700921820@googlegroups.com> <576B9B33.2030903@rece.vub.ac.be> <07e13a5d-38bf-7bfa-f45f-a24dea8e3004@online.de> <mailman.59.1466670482.11516.python-list@python.org> <576ba927$0$1504$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87wplgfdb5.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <dt8gr5FkccbU1@mid.individual.net> <4c257ef7-519f-4121-b63b-fb38566072d0@googlegroups.com> <5773c832$0$1598$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <c32a4369-706b-40bc-8a8b-410b4a29df20@googlegroups.com> <57745c6d$0$1583$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <d60e179a-c244-48c1-8438-03ad63292897@googlegroups.com> <5775555f$0$22140$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <7ecde6d0-d3db-4a7a-8de6-65b398fedafe@googlegroups.com> <578a0992$0$1610$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <CAPTjJmpRO+V+6s8RebvTkUu=7DqWPbM5ycgSZkhsZ7ebsPz6Dw@mail.gmail.com> <mailman.33.1468665977.2307.python-list@python.org> <d3a23120-ad47-4e46-b6ce-4311ae003712@googlegroups.com> <578a605f$0$1611$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com>
Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:111517

On 2016-07-16 17:27, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 10:33 pm, Rustom Mody wrote:
[snip]

> And yes, Rustom, I'm very familiar with the philosophical objections to the
> something/nothing distinction. "Is zero truly nothing, or is it some thing
> distinct from the absence of any number?" I'm not interested in that
> argument. Let the philosophers count angels, but as far as Python code
> goes, I'm an intuitionist: if I have zero sheep, that's the same as not
> having any sheep, or having no sheep.
>
[snip]

And if you're going to argue that zero is something, then you could also 
argue that false is something...