Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.020 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'english,': 0.09; 'formatting': 0.09; 'subject:design': 0.09; 'runs': 0.10; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; '(just': 0.16; 'cc:name:python list': 0.16; 'delimiters': 0.16; 'frame,': 0.16; 'literature,': 0.16; 'portable': 0.16; 'subject:Language': 0.16; 'tabs': 0.16; 'whitespace.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'nearly': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; '13,': 0.31; 'sep': 0.31; 'quite': 0.32; 'fri,': 0.33; 'not.': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'material': 0.36; 'easily': 0.37; 'depends': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'even': 0.60; 'remove': 0.60; 'read': 0.60; "you'll": 0.62; 'more': 0.64; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'universe': 0.84; 'same,': 0.91; 'washington': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ljcFvAM4dEdjMql0VFamDtaYzASbiWMbDJ/ibiim7WI=; b=aAXg6zwu3fcTDPpap/L6ikJDKS0af9w/9rmoHdYPizUqAJRkjfh08/QKEXo1mV1FZZ uW1rEbBW9F3owUKd9ShJrbL7vrPi06s0UM9MyVTO28kWg2XOIfGkw7KqPJJNS9jkopfV OpUSndBIE+AJ8PCn4/1iuVyd98KQaTGsI4vZPSLJiJQReqSCeD6nAMGkddmNZnI0zfqe yYclkoOcgVO28VL/wsZ6nWbhoFgxEKVQ4t5glyhTx1dTWnLg6MEfnCKO3uZARFUWuxz7 3tbNH9yvpg79Tci5K1QHPU38FKqAQ3lLitSqrGc+BiQOwljr1wCjOmC4Qhmgb6qGxOKv QqEA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.107.167 with SMTP id hd7mr4560006wib.13.1379118498558; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 17:28:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <522eb795$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5232e562$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 17:28:18 -0700 Subject: Re: Language design From: Mark Janssen To: Chris Angelico Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Python List X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1379118500 news.xs4all.nl 15923 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55703 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:54147 On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > Evangelical vicar in want of a portable second-hand font. Would > dispose, for the same, of a portrait, in frame, of the Bishop-elect of > Vermont. > > I think you could quite easily reconstruct the formatting of that, > based on its internal structure. Even in poetry, English doesn't > depend on its formatting nearly as much as Python does; (Just to dispose of this old argument:) Both Python and English depend on both syntactical, material delimiters and whitespace. While it may seem that Python depends more on whitespace than English, that is highly contentious, poetry or not. Take some literature, remove all the tabs at paragraph start and CRs at paragraph-end so that it all runs together and you'll find that it impossible to read -- you just won't be able to enter into the universe that the author is attempting to build. -- MarkJ Tacoma, Washington