Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.048 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.91; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'subject:skip:c 10': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; '(it': 0.16; '(today': 0.16; '80s,': 0.16; 'lisp': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:between': 0.16; 'subject:programming': 0.16; 'student': 0.16; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'skip': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'on,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'went': 0.31; 'subject:that': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'languages': 0.32; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; "didn't": 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'level': 0.37; 'filled': 0.38; 'course.': 0.60; 'back': 0.62; 'upper': 0.74; 'subject: *': 0.84; 'touched': 0.84; 'undergrad': 0.84; 'subject:Good': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=YqOGefz1XlYpbzvvHgWBdnDlxyYGWmUZ/i+ODfGhjAs=; b=QyV00V3GtzjEmQd9Tw328lU1mKaq/YGyEcdBczCk5tr3t5iQsLyTCyalkCwFPxqD8N zfM1jPGznIoEpjQpmYDDyaH33swEhsXobtYzLtTWKdZ53/mZlZ56kbIS+qe7hk5iGTd8 lwR2QX1R1bUwQeeewgN0UzJ1XnilyjZ6hRySn2NS8nVB+srQCXiylBEvqh0UH3qFbL6x 1NjztdmYo8aCvVq7VAunF0Tm6O5hctPLrTujK1kT53CyQVB7MmhlGLs6AnbHb03Oknlu 1BqQPIOEQ6n1i/Q/56kbvkQu4hQhuCaEUv59fY/Po1mbkLlXdz45fec+7fQ1XO6qDiym KMLg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.193.8 with SMTP id r8mr7669026oif.27.1431353045196; Mon, 11 May 2015 07:04:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <281c0f90-8353-4480-93d3-9c656505cc61@googlegroups.com> References: <02dba7aa-8466-4937-a8d8-82ffd03e5568@googlegroups.com> <55502919$0$12997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <281c0f90-8353-4480-93d3-9c656505cc61@googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 09:04:05 -0500 Subject: Re: Instead of deciding between Python or Lisp for a programming intro course...What about an intro course that uses *BOTH*? Good idea? From: Skip Montanaro Cc: Python Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113cd73ccea72f0515ced9c6 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1431353048 news.xs4all.nl 2872 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50623 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:90381 --001a113cd73ccea72f0515ced9c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Don't CS departments still have a computer languages survey class? When I was a graduate student at Iowa in the early 80s, we had one. (It was, as I recall, an upper level undergrad course. I didn't get into CS until graduate school, so went back to filled in some missing stuff.) I don't recall all the languages we touched on, but ISTR there were five or six. I know we hit Lisp (today, it would likely be Scheme), and probably APL (today it would probably be Python+Pandas, MATLAB, R, or something similar). Skip --001a113cd73ccea72f0515ced9c6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Don't CS departments still = have a computer languages survey class? When I was a graduate student at Io= wa in the early 80s, we had one. (It was, as I recall, an upper level under= grad course. I didn't get into CS until graduate school, so went back t= o filled in some missing stuff.) I don't recall all the languages we to= uched on, but ISTR there were five or six. I know we hit Lisp (today, it wo= uld likely be Scheme), and probably APL (today it would probably be Python+= Pandas, MATLAB, R, or something similar).
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