Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.099 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.82; '*S*': 0.02; '21,': 0.07; 'great.': 0.07; 'python': 0.11; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'languages)': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'there.': 0.32; 'fri,': 0.33; 'problem': 0.35; 'etc': 0.35; 'late': 0.35; 'one,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'everyone.': 0.36; 'changing': 0.37; 'too': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'most': 0.60; 'dont': 0.67; 'obvious': 0.74; 'subject:Value': 0.84; 'rusi': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=hQ5Tm7SwKcpXbupnWzE/xW1yC5xN12gqWUuPNZjKIoI=; b=vMc12jlPufo4hENGvXukyhIf3q1oaqDv7AS9fO2aG/mRZTpdKGPdfKD3nPmXnScNAn GgdxTvYj4C474A+6l+jHOLjs0kNPesxAOOI7yafPlnaVYCg1p3UhPjU5ReYfp2Zg8iWY 3Op21lmer4NPI3AuRVt1e/Xi4B8xTb3zi12Ocr5BlcHfOmTPWkbi8cjT5wsA7F4vzoEv TpMrfxdYR6CC2T24mQsMIP+Ep6oD+7mB5NLN6GP6xvoVDVVQUb6ipQ0R7JAU6BJB1xN0 8jLfJhRDIxFUdyAwmv7sej9aHtlNVhsRJbg9gc27cPD4RE7m05235hrheGY8EpSWvMF5 mLjA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.202.197 with SMTP id ff5mr3318611vcb.3.1371748766666; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:19:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <09cfa648-ab87-4261-b8f0-bf493de00553@4g2000pbf.googlegroups.com> References: <7e6361d5-6619-4aaa-adda-8b5f01bde57f@googlegroups.com> <447dd1c6-1bb2-4276-a109-78d7a067b442@d8g2000pbe.googlegroups.com> <2e92b4c7-31be-40d2-a906-ab19f3630dfa@googlegroups.com> <09cfa648-ab87-4261-b8f0-bf493de00553@4g2000pbf.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 03:19:26 +1000 Subject: Re: Default Value From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 11 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1371748769 news.xs4all.nl 15920 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49739 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:48811 On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 3:12 AM, rusi wrote: > Python (and all the other 'cool' languages) dont have gotchas because > someone malevolently put them there. > In most cases, the problem is seen too late and the cost of changing > entrenched code too great. > Or the problem is clear, the solution is not etc etc. Or, in many MANY cases, the choice was the right one, but isn't obvious to everyone. ChrisA