Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.021 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'patterns': 0.04; 'encoding': 0.05; 'output': 0.05; 'derived': 0.09; 'patterns,': 0.09; 'semantic': 0.09; 'subject:few': 0.09; 'tonight.': 0.09; 'url:unicode': 0.09; 'utilizing': 0.09; '>that': 0.16; 'andreas': 0.16; 'bye,': 0.16; 'manner,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'input': 0.22; 'exists': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'people,': 0.24; 'values': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'character': 0.29; "we're": 0.32; 'implemented': 0.33; '"the': 0.34; 'sense': 0.34; 'johnson': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'vice': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'aspects': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'most': 0.60; 'conversion': 0.61; 'devices': 0.61; 'face': 0.64; 'received:194': 0.64; 'url:0': 0.67; 'url:pdf': 0.68; 'subject': 0.69; 'wish': 0.70; 'touch': 0.74; 'exchanged': 0.84; 'faithfully': 0.84; 'haunt': 0.84; 'interchange': 0.84; 'rick': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MktkrhKc7c0jHJ1XGHT9JJPHBxW3cjJ5SkPCgWreTuY=; b=tyfeoU5aWQi8zb9/uMOBZ8vZ2NredeEKh2ZwEuQNkimvORK8n7pMGer7LPTwA61r6R zT84ktqZuvdSGlgkPlQzYNbnqyc+gMOwPBdi0Y8AmX53fR4a/3t2HyU1ypZgvjC2E11t G5at2fdKpa8iDg0NnqTfwKV+BQY/8AuUCyw7A5KRrTnGrbvwXc9KLs3paRQrzuwWRvSa lOatEZKTIE62bezv2JKlH2hsJFPZRHOivVQ4leyFgFeoWL8tNmGQrCq8yZjiVoqdXn7Z ML5ujMPkbchPcCYZA7TwwWLMROXIQDh11yujp31kxpD5xV9qkEYRchRGh0AHEL19uxDD n8LQ== X-Received: by 10.14.178.8 with SMTP id e8mr5231615eem.20.1371748089078; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:08:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 19:08:06 +0200 From: Andreas Perstinger To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: A few questiosn about encoding In-Reply-To: <4160f6c9-8a53-432f-b807-ae33ed69ac97@googlegroups.com> References: <6dfa3707-80f4-407a-a109-66dbb0130513@googlegroups.com> <51b83e5a$0$29998$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51b90ead$0$29997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51b9708b$0$29872$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <77ba6b16-4b1d-47a6-9b9b-5af45335c4fe@googlegroups.com> <51c2a089$0$29973$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <4160f6c9-8a53-432f-b807-ae33ed69ac97@googlegroups.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.24.6; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1371748097 news.xs4all.nl 15904 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42799 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:48808 Rick Johnson wrote: >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Since we're on the subject of Unicode: >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >One the most humorous aspects of Unicode is that it has >encodings for Braille characters. Hmm, this presents a >conundrum of sorts. RIDDLE ME THIS?! > > Since Braille is a type of "reading" for the blind by > utilizing the sense of touch (therefore DEMANDING 3 > dimensions) and glyphs derived from Unicode are > restrictively two dimensional, because let's face it people, > Unicode exists in your computer, and computer screens are > two dimensional... but you already knew that -- i think?, > then what is the purpose of a Unicode Braille character set? > >That should haunt your nightmares for some time. =46rom http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode6.2.0/ch15.pdf "The intent of encoding the 256 Braille patterns in the Unicode Standard is to allow input and output devices to be implemented that can interchange Braille data without having to go through a context-dependent conversion from semantic values to patterns, or vice versa. In this manner, final-form documents can be exchanged and faithfully rendered." http://files.pef-format.org/specifications/pef-2008-1/pef-specification.htm= l#Unicode I wish you a pleasant sleep tonight. Bye, Andreas