Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.036 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:134': 0.05; 'reason,': 0.07; '"we': 0.16; 'builtins': 0.16; 'builtins.': 0.16; 'implies': 0.16; 'reason?': 0.16; 'prevent': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'mon,': 0.24; 'least': 0.26; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; 'strongly': 0.30; 'steven': 0.31; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'keyword': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'turn': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'kind': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'sound': 0.68; '2015': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqcEAJ+vUFWGuA9G/2dsb2JhbABch1/JMQoCgXwBAQEBAQGFKwEBAQMBI1sLCxgCAgUhAgIPAkYTCAKIIAi0DI5thEoBAQgCIIEhihiFDBaCUoFFAQSPd4kqg3+HSoEVjXgjg3mDMwEBAQ Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 15:38:23 +0200 From: Antoon Pardon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: anomaly References: <554F9525.5040101@digipen.edu> <5550815E.5080600@rece.vub.ac.be> <5550a1d4$0$13013$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: <5550a1d4$0$13013$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1431351504 news.xs4all.nl 2864 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44009 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:90378 Op 11-05-15 om 14:34 schreef Steven D'Aprano: > On Mon, 11 May 2015 09:39 pm, Antoon Pardon wrote: > >> There is no >> a priori reason why we should turn "True" into a keyword and allow >> "int" in the builtins. > Why should there be an *a priori* reason? I don't say there should be an *a priori* reason, but one implies or at least strongly suggests an *a priori* reason when one comes with such general rule as /We are all adults, so we allow this kind of thing./ "We allow buitins to be overridden", doesn't sound as a very accurate description of the underlining reason, when you know that things have been removed from builtins and made a keyword in order to prevent them from being overridden.