Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.048 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.90; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.03; 'am,': 0.14; 'say,': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.14; 'altered': 0.16; 'firefox.': 0.16; 'ie.': 0.16; 'occasionally': 0.16; 'subject:versus': 0.16; 'subject:] ': 0.16; 'foss': 0.19; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.20; 'usage': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cheers,': 0.20; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.22; 'thu,': 0.22; 'trying': 0.23; 'smart': 0.23; '\xa0so': 0.23; 'reporting': 0.26; "i'm": 0.26; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; "doesn't": 0.28; 'server': 0.29; 'discard': 0.29; 'gather': 0.29; 'this.': 0.30; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.31; 'do.': 0.31; 'recall': 0.31; 'received:209.85.210.46': 0.31; 'received:mail- pz0-f46.google.com': 0.31; 'does': 0.31; "can't": 0.31; 'using': 0.34; 'actually': 0.34; 'problem,': 0.35; 'couple': 0.35; '"we': 0.35; 'subject:software': 0.35; 'rather': 0.36; 'problem.': 0.36; 'enough': 0.37; 'data': 0.37; 'some': 0.37; 'rest': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.37; 'either': 0.37; 'apr': 0.38; 'identity': 0.38; 'received:google.com': 0.38; 'but': 0.38; 'back.': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.39; 'would': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'messages': 0.40; 'might': 0.40; '2011': 0.62; 'and,': 0.63; 'spend': 0.63; 'sincerely': 0.63; 'truly': 0.64; 'browser': 0.64; 'browser,': 0.68; 'subject:Free': 0.72; 'browser.': 0.77; '100%': 0.82; 'masking': 0.84; 'stupid': 0.84; 'to:addr:charter.net': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UpFCfVdsDdVnkwprJQfutby+0Bt2MdsABPBtB+6x2uM=; b=heryNT1KyJ8sb9NRGUS42+gPXnur0k0SqSv3wiOjXnSGADhZ6HRpCJZV+TyI+p0Kyq o00jVJaqmQDRdk0utBhBfCOvTDQphOg/sDapLkCBW1tDmT8QHYUyeXa9snQVCC0jm8io zWNN8wuw7/wN939kl5I7GhG2OgghZFGVbxd7g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AgZzhxgMsHncHxVw3ttxlKH1QF9Td8kYB5QS89V93d2zIABohp5mH4z1TL4etJ37NB jmzUmnK/kPOq2iBvunvHum0cxtu6rNzZ095BFeFsHehk3H1o6STvcJ8yLAJFd/Zy6o7M BlCb4aMEryUxlxzxVJ4iDc0NiVe1Cp779mVYo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4d9c5ca5$0$29991$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87tyebf3r3.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> <4d9d6a4a$0$29992$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <6Nknp.10080$lx3.7480@newsfe02.iad> <4d9e6551$0$29991$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <4da0f1e1$0$29986$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> From: Ian Kelly Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:49:44 -0600 Subject: Re: [OT] Free software versus software idea patents To: harrismh777 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1302799817 news.xs4all.nl 81482 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:44317 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:3205 On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:04 AM, harrismh777 wro= te: > =A0 =A0How mamy times have you altered the identity of your web browser s= o that > the web site would 'work'? You know, stupid messages from the server that > say, "We only support IE 6+, upgrade your browser...", =A0so you tell it > you're using IE 6 and, well no problem. I actually can't even recall the last time I had to deal with that problem, although occasionally I find myself forced to use IE because the site really, truly doesn't work in Firefox. It might work in some other browser, but I'm not going to spend the time trying every FOSS browser in existence just to avoid using IE. Anyway, I would hope that the statisticians who gather this data would be smart enough to discard any site that was reporting 100% usage of one particular browser. Note that user-agent masking is also a rather tech-savvy thing to do. I sincerely doubt that more than a couple percent of the population actually does this. The rest would either grumble about it and start up IE, or just leave the site without looking back. Cheers, Ian