Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.088 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.83; '*S*': 0.00; 'obey': 0.09; 'sentence': 0.09; 'times,': 0.14; 'ah,': 0.16; 'op.': 0.16; 'not,': 0.20; '(in': 0.22; 'people,': 0.24; 'cheers,': 0.24; 'daniel': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'statement': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'breaking': 0.31; 'ordinary': 0.31; 'not.': 0.33; 'sense': 0.34; "i'd": 0.34; 'definition': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; "didn't": 0.36; 'skip:o 20': 0.38; 'from:addr:googlemail.com': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'legally': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'simply': 0.61; 'complying': 0.84; 'forced': 0.84; 'subject:Mystery': 0.84; 'increases': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=q0jJ3eKq/cas82LO0cDTJo1VTQcAmWQQOgiX5U2t24s=; b=pWBHGZ1bdVMAuLqqvet2fF7YPOTACnAXpmsh93q5R5izNoyRquN6R3creVdGn6RtIo aEjQ/Z2SNVgdIJqSZD/kVs0vGxcfeUTw6tp03iXKAhFFGdRNY6LBCqfaIHxc1tOyNFDo bPGj2eXnxBZy4OtYjJ59V/4ifP1CNH8W8ONVsnQLk/vgnUCKOqDevX8Mw8kYfH/7acI5 aApmRD0z0hIqyzSE3SsJEmbkcRxdvyT8NqE5efmOIbOwPRzFx1L2LMgElW4bXjpPArde NxQeE2keMOg+sxlPqCrbOuHg5unRLEiZYGC2SIiX0c/jP1tkOMjhE2YjQ6YxmEmWqHnM ndyA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.27.162 with SMTP id 31mr2286342qgx.64.1429264026507; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 02:47:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55305821$0$13003$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <55305821$0$13003$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 11:47:06 +0200 Subject: Re: Great Math Mystery From: "Fetchinson ." To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1429264034 news.xs4all.nl 2914 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:36959 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:89059 >> In an altercation with the police, complying with their orders greatly >> increases your chances of survival. > > Ah, the definition of a police state: where ordinary people, whether > breaking the law or not, are forced by fear of death to obey the police at > all times, whether the police are acting legally or not. I think you are grossly mischaracterizing that sentence of the OP. He simply makes an observation: in an altercation with the police, complying with their orders greatly increases your chances of survival. Is this observation/statement true or false? Based on empirical data from the past 50 years (in the US and elsewhere) I'd say it's true by a huge margin. The OP didn't make any value judgements on this statement whether he advocates for compliance or not, whether he encourages the establishment of a police state or not, whether he thinks compliance is a good thing or not. For all we know he might be a flaming anarchist with a keen sense of observing empirical facts. Cheers, Daniel -- Psss, psss, put it down! - http://www.cafepress.com/putitdown