Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeder2.ecngs.de!ecngs!feeder.ecngs.de!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'subject:help': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'integer,': 0.09; 'negative,': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'subject:python': 0.11; 'division,': 0.16; 'prefered': 0.16; 'stuff.': 0.16; 'uniqueness': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'yield': 0.17; 'solution.': 0.18; '>>>': 0.18; 'all,': 0.21; 'cheers,': 0.23; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'second': 0.24; 'so.': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'url:wiki': 0.26; 'checking': 0.27; 'division': 0.29; 'url:wikipedia': 0.29; 'definition': 0.29; 'probably': 0.29; 'basic': 0.30; 'strict': 0.33; 'problem': 0.33; 'problem,': 0.35; 'doing': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'being': 0.37; 'why': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'positive': 0.38; 'mean': 0.38; 'url:en': 0.38; 'instead': 0.39; 'received:194': 0.61; 'kindly': 0.67; 'brand': 0.78; '1st': 0.81; 'valid,': 0.84 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,387,1344204000"; d="scan'208";a="709511" X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.sequans.com Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:19:17 +0200 From: Jean-Michel Pichavant User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100328) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ramyasri Dodla Subject: Re: Division help in python References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 42 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1347034758 news.xs4all.nl 6927 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39983 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:28695 Ramyasri Dodla wrote: > Hi All, > > I am brand new to python. checking over basic stuff. I came across the > problem while doing so. If any body aware of the problem, kindly > respond me. > > >>> 5/10 > 0 > >>> - 5/10 > -1 > > The second case also should yield a 'zero' but it is giving a -1 > Why should it yield 'zero' ? The definition of the euclidean division : (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclidean_division) a = b*q +r with 0≤ r < |b| With the constraint of r being a positive integer, the couple (q, r) is unique: with a=-5, b=10 -5 = 10*-1 + 5 (q=-1, r=+5) Note that for the strict Euclidean division, I mean the one allowing r to be negative, then -5 = 10*0 - 5 (q=0, r=-5) is also valid, but I there's still no reason to state that it SHOULD be prefered over the other solution. The uniqueness of the solution for the 1st definition is probably what makes python yield -1 instead of 0. Cheers, JM