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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 22:55:33 +0200 References: <3C2755B3-2478-45E1-88F5-9FD961F2B1BD@gmail.com> <1379354161.1707.22675889.2647208B@webmail.messagingengine.com> To: "python-list@python.org" In-Reply-To: <1379354161.1707.22675889.2647208B@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 96 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1379364943 news.xs4all.nl 15915 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52328 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:54244 --Apple-Mail=_0DB3B031-F49C-46F9-A58E-756F59073300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On 2013-W38-1, at 19:56, random832@fastmail.us wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013, at 9:15, Michael Schwarz wrote: >> According to the documentation of time.gmtime(), it returns a = struct_time >> in UTC, but %z is replaced by +0100, which is the UTC offset of my = OS=92s >> time zone without DST, but DST is currently in effect here (but was = not >> at the timestamp passed to gmtime()). >=20 > The struct_time type does not include information about what timezone = it > is in. Uhm =85 Python 3.3 introduced the tm_gmtoff member of struct_time, which = contains the offset to UTC. I thought, %z was also introduced in Python = 3.3 and so I thought it would use that field. What time zone does it use = then? Does it always use the system's time zone? > You can use datetime.datetime (e.g. datetime.datetime.fromtimestamp(40 = * > 365 * 86400,datetime.timezone.utc) - the datetime.datetime class has a > strftime method. I do use that, but I was using time.localtime() to convert a POSIX = timestamp to a date using the system's timezone and saw that while a = struct_time produced by time.localtime() and formatted using = time.strftime() shows the correct time zone (+0100 and +0200 here), it = does not for a struct_time produced by time.gmtime(). I think that's = strange. > You should be aware that %F and %T are not portable and won't work on > windows for example. I=92m aware of that, but thanks. I was toying around and just needed to = print the rest of the date. 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