Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: [beginner] What's wrong? Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 19:15:36 +1100 Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <99234e90-fcd4-4a05-b97f-b47228dde20c@googlegroups.com> <1459571270.714249.566352882.6ADCD0CC@webmail.messagingengine.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de jBacFIFL8NZrNlCJ1PWLDA7gL2FPNad1NG7rJ5yadkgA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.019 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.03; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'folks': 0.15; 'subsequent': 0.15; '2016': 0.16; '3:27': 0.16; '999': 0.16; 'astronomical': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'numbering': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:beginner': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'integer': 0.18; 'subject:] ': 0.19; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'saying': 0.22; 'defined': 0.23; 'sat,': 0.23; 'long,': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'earlier': 0.27; 'define': 0.27; 'fri,': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; '17th': 0.29; 'era': 0.29; 'long.': 0.29; 'starts': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'system,': 0.30; 'michael': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'trouble': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.36; '(and': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'being': 0.37; 'received:209.85.213': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'means': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'rather': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; '2000': 0.63; 'country.': 0.67; 'talking': 0.67; '2001.': 0.84; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'humans': 0.84; 'millennium': 0.84; "they'd": 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91; 'forgotten': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=OrFZqH/EJ8yJA0PFItw121VuVsMZYS5Rl7kT+qUp774=; b=mwO2GCeVgpn1smjiOoQzHJrdSetrSH7WMR3qcYuQzI7er9fT+/RrZc+wtUEduZb8kn K1BRjg5NO+iX+D/ZNICXPi0jqGScjoJnu4fLK1HOyFZT8PJW8wub0gU/QWpzPksv76Xn yDezr2/HLFECqTPQzEEZOWlBT7xPar6mGTHkZwWstq5MdVErhk+Vc3HNOXQ2tdKrf45H y9GE603joMpqKGcON3YzDsIsiaCQEFjg68h3BcLHiHdbii/xzPHno321vRdHqD1so1pl 3k28KrC3WuWPJlf+ZgvOVziKgiyknocj9d+f1V3vI+uqYcwmUJE2E4ujJKfKs/qOfJkI hyBA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=OrFZqH/EJ8yJA0PFItw121VuVsMZYS5Rl7kT+qUp774=; b=XHbLmW/vmNAtX5wyHm0wosLvn4i5EYXD9HOpyh0XesaHAFZ8sni9uuMmA+l7JW7Oub wov0FRvotS+22mkA80RJzASQr8WUk8SxB5ckWx9uFzbDru2dNoBuUVZQMI6ctmDUCX7M l/kKtckhNh095/uWOL/E5XCS9Fb2xbsZdhhzFxmsRhO037qv/1BOlZJDe9BSn+VW0wld zlY7pXn8SGnPEzBHpw2rOPAnGH8B9yYF494NSzMoa8EbvFok3SSQ1eWm/hvhDvJwQHfh cHGt92+0vvPoxIh8YpJhsphqBMhrFR4PCZgNlB2C576stbOWTxIJTZrmnGMyRtTDgxhd +v6A== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLVBeAJ80ODkDRQ2/+9nG1x8A3eOluqXeinEJZeukp59HubjSfZtbGo3r/rI1s++tsHJOqioXZNKzFkAg== X-Received: by 10.107.137.101 with SMTP id l98mr592546iod.31.1459584936241; Sat, 02 Apr 2016 01:15:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1459571270.714249.566352882.6ADCD0CC@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:106280 On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Random832 wrote: > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016, at 19:29, Michael Selik wrote: >> Humans have always had trouble with this, in many contexts. I remember >> being annoyed at folks saying the year 2000 was the first year of the new >> millennium, rather than 2001. They'd forgotten the Gregorian calendar >> starts from AD 1. > > Naturally, this means the first millennium was only 999 years long, and > all subsequent millennia were 1000 years long. (Whereas "millennium" is > defined as the set of all years of a given era for a given integer k > where y // 1000 == k. How else would you define it?) > > And if you want to get technical, the gregorian calendar starts from > some year no earlier than 1582, depending on the country. The year > numbering system has little to do with the calendar type - your > assertion in fact regards the BC/AD year numbering system, which was > invented by Bede. > > The astronomical year-numbering system, which does contain a year zero > (and uses negative numbers rather than a reverse-numbered "BC" era), and > is incidentally used by ISO 8601, was invented by Jacques Cassini in the > 17th century. > Are you sure? Because I'm pretty sure these folks were already talking about BC. http://xenohistorian.faithweb.com/holybook/quotes/YK.html ChrisA