Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:not': 0.03; 'preferably': 0.05; 'attributes': 0.09; 'from:addr:ethan': 0.09; 'from:addr:stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'from:name:ethan furman': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'message-id:@stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'subject:Why': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'notation.': 0.16; 'ought': 0.16; 'piotr': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:accessing': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'charset:us- ascii': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:173': 0.61; 'subject:there': 0.68; 'obvious': 0.74; '"one': 0.84; 'ethan': 0.84; 'furman': 0.84; 'subject:being': 0.84 Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 13:00:58 -0800 From: Ethan Furman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Why is there no natural syntax for accessing attributes with names not being valid identifiers? References: <15912943-29a1-4365-b027-7bb8cec447f8@googlegroups.com> <17gt99hg615jfm7bdid26185884d2pfdkf@4ax.com> <5eb566a0-3911-48fa-ba83-a863da66a55d@googlegroups.com> <529F8F23.20006@stoneleaf.us> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator3304.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - stoneleaf.us X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 173.12.184.233 X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([173.12.184.233]) [173.12.184.233]:41149 X-Source-Auth: ethan+stoneleaf.us X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: dG9idWs7dG9idWs7Z2F0b3IzMzA0Lmhvc3RnYXRvci5jb20= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1386193611 news.xs4all.nl 2921 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:36287 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:61053 On 12/04/2013 12:55 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 04/12/2013 20:22, Ethan Furman wrote: >> On 12/04/2013 12:07 PM, Piotr Dobrogost wrote: >>> >>> If there ought to be only one way to access attributes then it should >>> be dot notation. >> >> Not "only one way", it's "one obvious way". >> > > Not "one obvious way" it's "There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.". Get it right lad :) I was paraphrasing. ;) -- ~Ethan~