Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'syntax': 0.04; 'explicitly': 0.05; 'expectation': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'licenses.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:skip:c 10': 0.09; 'url:activestate': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'thread': 0.14; "wouldn't": 0.14; '"message': 0.16; 'charging': 0.16; 'janssen': 0.16; 'merit,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'uppercase': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'passing': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'url:moin': 0.24; 'source': 0.25; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'url:code': 0.29; 'words': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'getting': 0.31; 'software,': 0.31; 'url:wiki': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'open': 0.33; 'says': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'everyone': 0.33; "can't": 0.35; 'case,': 0.35; "didn't": 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'so,': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'read': 0.60; 'free': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'such': 0.63; 'stand': 0.64; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'license': 0.66; 'here': 0.66; 'started.': 0.68; 'internet': 0.71; 'money': 0.72; 'protect': 0.79; 'all!': 0.84; 'facto': 0.84; 'subject:tool': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: im.py: a python communications tool Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 17:10:43 +0100 References: <48f984a0-7702-4cba-9021-06c3985646da@googlegroups.com> <5161f508$0$29995$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51637779.7020209@davea.name> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-18-43-197.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130409-0, 09/04/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1365523611 news.xs4all.nl 2575 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40967 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:43190 On 09/04/2013 08:21, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Mark Janssen wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Mark Janssen wrote: >>>> In the case of free (libre) open source >>>> software, such a case would have no merit, because such software never >>>> promises anyone *anything*. >>> >>> If that is the case, it's because the software license explicitly says >>> so - which is the reason for all those uppercase words in those >>> licenses. Which brings us right back to where we started. >> >> It doesn't have to say so, if it's not charging any money -- there's >> no expectation that you're getting anything at all! Where does >> everyone come up with these bullshit ideas? And them let them stand >> as de facto law? > > Where do YOU come up with the idea that you can't be sued if money > didn't change hands? In what jurisdiction is that true? Unless it's > true in every jurisdiction that the internet touches, I wouldn't trust > it to protect me. > > ChrisA > The same place that he came up with this thread "Message passing syntax for objects" on Python ideas? What the BDFL thought of it here http://code.activestate.com/lists/python-ideas/20043/ -- If you're using GoogleCrap™ please read this http://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython. Mark Lawrence