Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.020 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.10; 'subject:not': 0.11; "wouldn't": 0.11; 'steve': 0.13; '"it\'s': 0.16; 'benjamin': 0.16; 'subject:class': 0.16; 'subject:default': 0.16; 'subject:type': 0.16; 'vectors': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; 'meant': 0.21; 'supposed': 0.21; 'assuming': 0.22; 'orientation': 0.22; 'defined': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; "haven't": 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'idea': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'plain': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; '>>>>': 0.29; 'origin': 0.29; 'questions.': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'relative': 0.30; 'asking': 0.32; 'says': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mark': 0.38; 'nothing': 0.38; 'system.': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'dead': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; '"full': 0.84; 'captain.': 0.84; 'oscar': 0.84; 'to:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.84; 'glad': 0.86; 'captain': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=RVrIshC4KE12Sx+J/n4kSZiHWGbzPuCOyobbBB7g/ao=; b=Y+godboWXFFD2HkQgRA3A+jJax8OzXLi/ptcPAVwOeP4oBdr0gUWknzpGuEm4aAa51 m9CvbvcMZwqMuvxASWcPgz9w7nBxnrzZMJa4rXlZENGESWOsGH16P7X0KuTmMndJECA/ 6fFTfRQdb3mgrHeaBxLaxBAd3bRPh4+GkH2YaFBV2v7FUyOdwmWH3yBk4W+GvWlRfpNC BGZ7PUjz5Hro3LjMMzSmis8Trh74F8jOjzPemHTrGu9a9MIMqvvLkx3+dKYVUVdstsbu w7NawSgH4GwgVTcGbb/DC1f9p7EQRi4YJc4fIN2hKZzjJhNYUjkbCQd1jK9t3Ojxz6Py 8NSA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <509efbb6$0$29980$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <50a0272d$0$21756$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:50:55 +0000 Subject: Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined From: Oscar Benjamin To: Mark Lawrence Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1352685068 news.xs4all.nl 6926 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38274 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:33165 On 12 November 2012 01:29, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 12/11/2012 01:18, Oscar Benjamin wrote: >> >> On 12 November 2012 01:10, Mark Lawrence wrote: >>> >>> On 12/11/2012 00:31, Oscar Benjamin wrote: >>>> >>>> Plain wrong. Vectors are not defined *from any origin*. >>> >>> So when the Captain says "full speed ahead, steer 245 degrees", you >>> haven't >>> the faintest idea where you're going, because you have no origin? >> >> >> As Steve has just explained, the origin has nothing to do with the >> orientation of the coordinate system. >> >> But then I'm assuming you meant that 245 degrees was a bearing >> relative to North. Was it supposed to be relative to my current angle? >> Truthfully I wouldn't know what to do without asking the captain a >> couple more questions. > > The only good acedemic is a dead acedemic? Is that what happens when people ask questions on your ship: "it's the plank for him with the questions-askin'!" I'm glad you're not my captain. Oscar