Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:not': 0.11; 'benjamin': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:class': 0.16; 'subject:default': 0.16; 'subject:type': 0.16; 'vectors': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'defined': 0.22; "haven't": 0.23; 'idea': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'plain': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.32; 'says': 0.33; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.33; 'received:org': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mark': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; '"full': 0.84; 'oscar': 0.84; 'captain': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:10:27 +0000 References: <509efbb6$0$29980$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <50a0272d$0$21756$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-147-22-33.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 121111-1, 11/11/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1352682390 news.xs4all.nl 6853 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45516 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:33158 On 12/11/2012 00:31, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > > Plain wrong. Vectors are not defined *from any origin*. > So when the Captain says "full speed ahead, steer 245 degrees", you haven't the faintest idea where you're going, because you have no origin? -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.