Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eweka.nl!lightspeed.eweka.nl!194.134.4.91.MISMATCH!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.155 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.71; '*S*': 0.02; 'python': 0.11; '"are': 0.16; 'behave': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'objects.': 0.16; 'python-list,': 0.16; 'troll': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; '"you': 0.24; 'equivalent': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; '"do': 0.31; 'such.': 0.31; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'received:209.85.220': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'useful': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'results.': 0.60; 'matter': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'guarantee': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'therefore': 0.72; 'careful': 0.91; 'skin': 0.91; 'subject:Don': 0.91; 'imagine': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=nvK+GG4F2BGwzGyt9ZHWz5dccQVpE4BLXYeKshJIqT4=; b=Iu/PqsJg+NAwdfKudLgPJ48GPsYqZBXOp5xepmMvTr3NpJXFzx4VfSY5i6N6yHobug 0TV+yxdap53WTQXKgpQH4v2GA/BpWNH21Q+jOy/AUBkElZ0fpM1ivSafNjHl+AMzcz27 zhVhT7l4WxASrNTvNqukYV982QnfQtwIvsWvn9QzkFu1fGP6RYijo6lHSFT8ezSpPleI 9WezKqyHB7/5dcZhiVxxKl8vzMTEouSyJx1jWEgrSrWyp9UucEDrASou7TZIFRllMFi2 qepHifwTZpUCS0RKlTXD13NMKv1h7MLz9McRhoOxnA96tQDkpdMzBW3h1iN5Rv1weEHm GRAA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.48.17 with SMTP id p17mr209960vcf.97.1371625648595; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 00:07:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <661962dd-a89f-427d-8954-e795a0207678@googlegroups.com> References: <7wfvwkcihf.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <20130615020957.GA72426@cskk.homeip.net> <7w61xfa9y8.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <51bc8af2$0$29997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <6dc5124d-3b00-4d53-a555-b7f31765abd7@ow4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> <51bca9eb$0$29997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <35734e52-2396-4ec2-938f-d5b0f592adf5@4g2000pbf.googlegroups.com> <74df2815-b197-44ea-a3bb-ad27ea81862a@googlegroups.com> <3fd3be2f-a4fc-4212-ac10-e5f50567a297@ow4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> <661962dd-a89f-427d-8954-e795a0207678@googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:07:28 +1000 Subject: Re: Don't feed the troll... From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1371625656 news.xs4all.nl 15875 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50270 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:48689 On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:49 PM, wrote: > On 06/18/2013 01:21 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:39 PM, alex23 wrote: >>> tl;dr Stop acting like a troll and we'll stop perceiving you as such. >> >> This being Python-list, we duck-type. You don't have to declare that >> you're a troll, like you would in C; you just react like a troll and >> we'll treat you as one. We never ask "are you a troll", we just ask >> "do you quack like a troll". > > People are much more complex than Python objects. While > duck-typing is a useful heuristic it does not guarantee > accurate results. And keep in mind that stereotyping and > racial profiling are forms of duck typing. You need to > be careful when duck-typing people. On the contrary, stereotyping is "You are-a , therefore you will behave in ". This is the opposite: "You behave like a troll, therefore you are equivalent to a troll". Imagine if we treated all those with green skin who live under bridges as trolls, no matter how good their contributions... ChrisA