Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.009 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'bug.': 0.07; 'class,': 0.07; 'tuple': 0.09; 'subject:not': 0.11; 'assume': 0.11; 'sat,': 0.15; 'ah,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'subject:class': 0.16; 'subject:default': 0.16; 'subject:type': 0.16; 'utterly': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'pointed': 0.17; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'chris': 0.28; 'origin': 0.29; 'case,': 0.29; 'that.': 0.30; 'could': 0.32; '11,': 0.33; 'point,': 0.33; 'true.': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'equal': 0.33; 'point.': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'nov': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'list,': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'more': 0.63; 'other.': 0.64; 'fact,': 0.69; 'deem': 0.84; "it'd": 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DxrH/JNjyZhANP3JujUUQ64JH8yTiIpBAFUyVHs9rEw=; b=w7LPIc29RkYlb76EY+Kw5HUCUHZDHXO+M3qnmkDWghdJgVDoymm9DrJ3PVH+s6fHsK F3tIFYT4/+sFuLxRAJa06ovCLUQ97xs28XpGOK2RvPNHUYEDS+Ze3vXUurXeK65Mtuo+ K1N9nVvsnaLuJzVJRdYAF90NMLECkvWDySwzod6rhgzwfRXc4dgy5obgF1Bq24lsAt+H WpYtIcQvylDbVHN3G+28DVEQT3a2Bmi54OEP8k482eFkiBPws9ROx1DIxUZwoip/8qMu iNRUGgR38/3Rf+CYWvGC1xD40xQ6+SjuM7Jr12Vq+VaY6sgM5NuxukE+tAqPSAvqsU6A aXkA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <509efbb6$0$29980$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 13:47:47 +1100 Subject: Re: Method default argument whose type is the class not yet defined From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1352602070 news.xs4all.nl 6932 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41235 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:33114 On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> I would not assume that. The origin is a point, just like any other. >> With a Line class, you could deem a zero-length line to be like a >> zero-element list, but Point(0,0) is more like the tuple (0,0) which >> is definitely True. > > It's more like the number 0 than the tuple (0,0). > > 0 is the origin on a 1-dimensional number line. > (0,0) is the origin on a 2-dimensional number plane. > > In fact, it might be pointed out that Point(0, 0) is a generalization > of 0+0j, which is equal to 0. Ah, good point. In any case, though, it'd be an utterly inconsequential bug. ChrisA