Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!cs.uu.nl!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'context': 0.04; 'received:verizon.net': 0.07; 'tab': 0.07; 'terry': 0.07; 'argument,': 0.09; 'googling': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'contrary,': 0.16; 'docs,': 0.16; 'gonna': 0.16; 'lookup': 0.16; 'really.': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:syntax': 0.16; 'language': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'jan': 0.19; 'seems': 0.20; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'happen.': 0.23; 'index': 0.24; 'windows': 0.26; 'function': 0.27; 'sorry,': 0.29; 'second': 0.29; 'pm,': 0.29; 'context,': 0.30; 'version': 0.32; 'minor': 0.32; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.33; 'this.': 0.33; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.33; 'there': 0.33; 'done': 0.34; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.34; 'symbol': 0.34; 'two': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'entry': 0.37; 'reference': 0.37; 'could': 0.37; 'using': 0.38; 'received:org': 0.38; 'seeing': 0.38; 'put': 0.38; 'finding': 0.39; 'being': 0.39; 'focus': 0.39; 'help': 0.39; 'third': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'type': 0.61; 'your': 0.61; 'you.': 0.63; 'google.': 0.64; 'article': 0.74; 'bottom,': 0.84; 'oneself': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: Verbose and flexible args and kwargs syntax Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 03:29:53 -0500 References: <4EE54272.8000005@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-74-109-121-73.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 In-Reply-To: <4EE54272.8000005@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1323678609 news.xs4all.nl 6861 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57434 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:17022 On 12/11/2011 6:53 PM, Eelco Hoogendoorn wrote: >> There are other means of finding information than Google. Really. > > This is really only a very minor point in my argument, so I dont want to > put the focus on this. On the contrary, it is a major point. You want us to change the language so you can program by Google. Sorry, aint't gonna happen. > Googling 'myprogramminglanguage conceptimtryingtofigureout' is my first, > second and third line of defence. Yes, I could read the reference manual > from top to bottom, and if I already knew about the existence of your > article then im sure that would be a great help too. You left out skimming the table of contents and using the index. On the Windows version of the docs, one can just type the entry wanted in the entry box on the Index tab and the lookup is done for you. Two chars to type for '**'. > But the situation > one finds oneself in is seeing two asterikses and not even being aware > they are particular to function definitions/invocations. If you find a symbol in a particular context, the entry for the context seems a reasonable place to start. -- Terry Jan Reedy