Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Random832 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: [beginner] What's wrong? Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2016 00:27:50 -0400 Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <99234e90-fcd4-4a05-b97f-b47228dde20c@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de Ds2ZXnA6VTtuF/1uKS4ABwuSWb3w71cIYA6cxAle+4LA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.03; 'received:internal': 0.09; 'folks': 0.15; 'subsequent': 0.15; '999': 0.16; 'astronomical': 0.16; 'message- id:@webmail.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'numbering': 0.16; 'opposite': 0.16; 'received:10.202': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2.212': 0.16; 'received:66.111': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4.27': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:out3-smtp.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:beginner': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'integer': 0.18; 'subject:] ': 0.19; 'saying': 0.22; 'defined': 0.23; 'long,': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'earlier': 0.27; 'define': 0.27; 'fri,': 0.27; '17th': 0.29; 'era': 0.29; 'long.': 0.29; 'starts': 0.29; 'system,': 0.30; 'michael': 0.33; 'rule': 0.33; 'trouble': 0.35; 'supports': 0.35; '(and': 0.36; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'received:10': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'received:66': 0.38; 'someone': 0.38; 'means': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'rather': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.61; '2000': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'country.': 0.67; '2001.': 0.84; 'humans': 0.84; 'millennium': 0.84; "they'd": 0.84; 'forgotten': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=foEUHvzPz0uATSyeL16oVzgI1qY=; b=phPmwJ 3btBwedeYiU02sfc7OI4I367+xeEcmE2urd0M0qIxlf4gJJawbVrb93Z4C6WVqW7 0nfe+2C5h/X6IYN5cKYg2CC24kM92p0pQoz7q1hQ8nFBwa50iB98vllldslakarT s5CCRoGiX46/IzJTIGKORBgXxubw/tbSo/AXg= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=foEUHvzPz0uATSy eL16oVzgI1qY=; b=tGWPXKZxozpVVk6qirZwIPEscJ1aN05scjSpnRgojv85q2+ /xT8/znlRsknLH6PLQolHS8tSGrQxrIc1bj04lN9tVhBaova3MAZMATQDlPgZksO C22OLvUtBpl8Bax+z1xBIenDLIttjDb0Qn9EQ6yRTuZZy32lcAHRvhX4s4oc= X-Sasl-Enc: rlRdODlTuyHxJlc4IIaKlUzdqt8NbOZGvLV3MmEzztCK 1459571270 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-2373d6a1 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:106272 On Fri, Apr 1, 2016, at 19:29, Michael Selik wrote: > Humans have always had trouble with this, in many contexts. I remember > being annoyed at folks saying the year 2000 was the first year of the new > millennium, rather than 2001. They'd forgotten the Gregorian calendar > starts from AD 1. Naturally, this means the first millennium was only 999 years long, and all subsequent millennia were 1000 years long. (Whereas "millennium" is defined as the set of all years of a given era for a given integer k where y // 1000 == k. How else would you define it?) And if you want to get technical, the gregorian calendar starts from some year no earlier than 1582, depending on the country. The year numbering system has little to do with the calendar type - your assertion in fact regards the BC/AD year numbering system, which was invented by Bede. The astronomical year-numbering system, which does contain a year zero (and uses negative numbers rather than a reverse-numbered "BC" era), and is incidentally used by ISO 8601, was invented by Jacques Cassini in the 17th century. Rule #1 of being pedantic: There's always someone more pedantic than you, whose pedantry supports the opposite conclusion.