Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'position,': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'character,': 0.07; 'inserts': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; '*key*': 0.09; 'pixels': 0.09; 'switches': 0.09; 'tab': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'personally,': 0.16; 'reconfigure': 0.16; 'tabs': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '2015': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'either.': 0.22; 'sep': 0.22; 'code,': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'command': 0.26; 'fri,': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'sequence': 0.27; 'actual': 0.28; 'spaces': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; 'convert': 0.29; 'skip:_ 10': 0.32; 'good.': 0.32; 'though,': 0.32; 'shift': 0.33; 'file': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'next': 0.35; 'mix': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'visual': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; "won't": 0.38; 'care': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; "you'll": 0.61; 'safe': 0.63; 'between': 0.65; 'bothered': 0.66; 'choose': 0.68; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'moves': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=gvHBTsE76i2ctFGknhj9AM6NHS7CanUSSIX/2WbBYno=; b=YB2CcwFHhzTcGxAV9CqFeOI6gm6z/0VsEPhyQpbQY8bq/+VLGz+qhRR+r6/ePL0RjL tVogWvWv4/pRIIgCi9ipYRE8wf7q88x6lgR7PJkw7hXgRd5fAhmSH2JHGEgLFCHgCtgX 704oExAOzo3Dhro3weufMsCgGZDYBqDxj2xKW28I7RVeBNKaOJHxz/At4V0xxfG0E9Hs H+MPtzWxO/VnHUYoTqyeSEn1hdX7Un93LTSgBIgIEdca71jq98/GUviPm2ZIYXtEJ24I Ue+G98rC2CcfMzbre3RcHxv6g7hGQ4J2I/zdFbc0RB/C+DETZZDUZiE0DkaaoMIHu3ml qBYA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.132.144 with SMTP id o16mr388960ioi.31.1441947576409; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 21:59:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87h9n1o9q4.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> References: <87h9n1o9q4.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 14:59:36 +1000 Subject: Re: Python handles globals badly. From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1441947579 news.xs4all.nl 23800 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48352 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:96319 On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > etc. The TAB *key* is a command that makes emacs indent with a mix of > spaces and TABs. I don't care how you key them in. If your tab key moves you to the next position, that's good. If you convert a sequence of N spaces into a tab character, though, that's bad, because then your file ends up with a mix, and an inconsistent one. To make emacs safe for use with Python code, you'll need to reconfigure it so the tab key inserts either a tab character or spaces, but never switches between them. Personally, I like to use tab characters for indentation. You can choose how many pixels or ems or ens or spaces the actual visual shift is, and if I disagree with your choice, it won't affect anything. As long as tabs are used _exclusively_, Python won't be bothered by it either. ChrisA