Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!news1.tnib.de!feed.news.tnib.de!news.tnib.de!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!194.109.133.81.MISMATCH!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.014 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'pil': 0.07; 'processing.': 0.07; 'compression': 0.09; 'input,': 0.09; 'pep': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'volunteer': 0.11; '(the': 0.15; '(ok,': 0.16; 'expects': 0.16; 'formats,': 0.16; 'mapping,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'those,': 0.16; 'wed,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'bit': 0.21; '2000,': 0.22; "i'd": 0.22; 'raw': 0.27; 'newer': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'mind,': 0.29; 'subject:development': 0.29; 'asking': 0.32; 'support,': 0.32; 'much.': 0.33; 'url:home': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'likely': 0.33; 'christian': 0.34; 'formats': 0.35; 'mapping': 0.35; 'nov': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.35; "won't": 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'far': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'comment': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'notice': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'most': 0.61; 'high': 0.61; 'dead': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'adobe': 0.65; 'camera': 0.65; 'reverse': 0.65; 'quality': 0.69; 'photo': 0.78; 'alone,': 0.84; 'before...': 0.84; 'canon,': 0.84; 'tone': 0.84; 'transfer.': 0.84; 'dennis': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: Imaging libraries in active development? Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 19:27:25 -0500 Organization: > Bestiaria Support Staff < References: <50B65486.8010306@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-76-253-108-151.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1354148847 news.xs4all.nl 6864 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43995 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:34045 On 28 Nov 2012 21:11:07 GMT, Jorgen Grahn declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: > On Wed, 2012-11-28, Christian Heimes wrote: > > PIL is missing a bunch of features like proper TIFF support (no > > multipage, g3/g4 compression and more), JPEG 2000, > > I thought those formats were dead since about a decade? (Ok, I know > TIFF has niches, but JPEG 2000?) > TIFF is, so far as I know, still a standard format for high quality photo transfer. > > RAW and HDR image > > formats, tone mapping, proper ICC support, PEP 3128 buffer support ... > > I won't comment on those, but they seem likely to be valid complaints. > RAW is not a specific format -- Canon, alone, has had TWO formats that are considered "RAW" (.CRW, and the newer .CR2). Notice the lag with Adobe Camera RAW as they have to reverse engineer the format whenever a new camera model is released (the format may not have changed, but some meta-data may be new). Expecting a volunteer development to spend time keeping up with, and reverse-engineering, each manufacturer's RAW format is, to my mind, asking for a bit much. I'd not heard of an "HDR" format before... Most software I know of expects to get two or more /regular/ images as input, and THEN process to create an HDR -- tone mapping being part of that processing. -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/