Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Random832 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Moderation and slight change of (de facto) policy Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 14:58:06 -0400 Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <5713C08F.3010207@timgolden.me.uk> <5713E8EA.1080801@timgolden.me.uk> <5715F785.4010005@timgolden.me.uk> <57165764$0$1605$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1461092286.2639434.583597513.7C7B98F4@webmail.messagingengine.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de VdHGf/cVwsFVzo8ZdkAV0gMVFyV18/9u6mNsugxF4dBw== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.019 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'moderation': 0.07; 'posting.': 0.09; 'received:internal': 0.09; 'worse': 0.09; '(either': 0.16; 'gmane': 0.16; 'message- id:@webmail.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:10.202': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2': 0.16; 'received:66.111': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'differ': 0.18; 'filtering': 0.22; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'far,': 0.29; 'mirror': 0.29; 'mode.': 0.29; '(including': 0.30; 'that.': 0.30; "we're": 0.30; 'posts': 0.30; 'subject:) ': 0.32; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'subject:change': 0.33; 'tue,': 0.34; 'add': 0.34; 'list': 0.34; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'others.': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'received:66': 0.38; 'google': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'group,': 0.60; 'header :Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'course': 0.62; 'policy': 0.63; 'places': 0.64; 'groups.': 0.72; 'sounds': 0.76; 'attention': 0.76; 'confusion.': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=HofjzljcU4fg+hf3UBmf4N2pxE0=; b=6OGjJk wlFvtnke/U5F5Wn6L0YmqKDxV0+tbPOEKlLmPIkbhw8Pq+N+JsMvccKiv8+vr4Yk WERT9tm6q7ynJMDmVoQZVH/E8ufXfBOcpIZImfUe/Mbg4Goqe12uWJYgp80s8pXz +KrtBzetwrG3fgmkwQV0098yg9D3uugoQd8UI= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=HofjzljcU4fg+hf 3UBmf4N2pxE0=; b=QOah1kr41H3ZEWgOQobMkXOB7t/Uoq74IUJ2tih9mWlTF69 wau2bocdHNkWtUQjC4PpsZu8QA0644W95wqsUD0t2G6a+eF5Lfpt79TAOkOGoGEz A2Czub2UomzOCGC1bHNU2wkbHzFcgS0CTVQdXPhAyXll8VJGMdf86pdbRgLE= X-Sasl-Enc: cT/a7t6guoXj00cIfldM7t3VWvgsOBQQ95KnQYGzSxQA 1461092286 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9b739787 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <1461092286.2639434.583597513.7C7B98F4@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Mailman-Original-References: <5713C08F.3010207@timgolden.me.uk> <5713E8EA.1080801@timgolden.me.uk> <5715F785.4010005@timgolden.me.uk> <57165764$0$1605$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:107358 On Tue, Apr 19, 2016, at 13:55, Jon Ribbens wrote: > On 2016-04-19, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > It's worse than that. There are many other places that mirror this group, > > such as gmane, Activestate, bytes.com, gossamer-threads.com, and of course > > Google Groups. They all have their own moderation and filtering policies, > > which may differ from those of the others. Some of them may do only > > mirroring, while others (including GG and gmane) may allow posting. > > > > And yet, we manage to muddle on. > > We've muddled on so far, but apparently we're just about to have > a significant change in moderation policy which sounds like it may > very well add to the confusion. It does look like some attention may need to be given to gmane (either to allow posts to continue to be submitted, or to notify gmane that the list should be put in "Non-public (posting through Gmane allowed for list members)" mode.