Path: csiph.com!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: importing Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 04:38:27 +1100 Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <56DDA44B.7040405@vanderhoff.org> <56DDB91D.3020006@vanderhoff.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 2HY3Vhc7NXv7uBSvOdlJQQaVhE4xSVJiSI5k/7XZCQCA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'docs.': 0.09; 'newest': 0.09; 'replied': 0.09; 'separately': 0.09; "(it's": 0.16; '2016': 0.16; '3.1.3': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'help;': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'url:html)': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'obviously': 0.16; 'module,': 0.18; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'tkinter': 0.22; 'visible': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'import': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'sort': 0.25; "doesn't": 0.26; 'van': 0.26; 'chris': 0.26; 'skip:" 20': 0.26; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'module.': 0.27; '(including': 0.30; 'too.': 0.30; 'work.': 0.30; 'code': 0.30; 'certainly': 0.30; 'guess': 0.31; 'says': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'case,': 0.34; 'recommended': 0.34; 'tue,': 0.34; 'running': 0.34; 'lists': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'others.': 0.36; 'url:library': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'thanks': 0.37; 'version': 0.38; 'received:209': 0.38; 'still': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'url:3': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'linked': 0.63; 'to,': 0.63; 'mar': 0.65; 'detail.': 0.66; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'url:tkinter': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=/7OTse8MnlAqYfULg44xKqIb8HAsf/xEoKJB3F2LotM=; b=Ku52wBiqHwgNItuhHcXSU5JHv6mRbqRtrkRIDXV8oeki0Jg4ovCPlz0gr3e7uSYXmy 0GG4ZEs/nKkDyjWdlM7TOP+k65zOd+lP7zalUAzpfJN/ivl8ACrt1C0pgGJe4otXdB2/ YttNK6icZZRdtGFjLh4fIQPef0EA/XECCeIIUwQOJyzqjP9brWu4Ch/GAaUAwpE6FKay 1D1KL3SaFG7RWeMlyyq4FrzIFljWWeQQrQAeMiVG9YfzswTYMRdJJqwyPTkcZTxqwDGE W6VCiOqI/26tYRu8yAB2/EH1Gt8hRjfnjAlIAcfZT+PlaAV51kgwWvYwsZ42oopXDHPm ZVBQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=/7OTse8MnlAqYfULg44xKqIb8HAsf/xEoKJB3F2LotM=; b=enVjN9strMRNdpKXk8SLwinFnmweVCpbbkSVyeRLwSOg+PVKgXuhJBnOxe5QqHUdWO mkYXdJ5KpKYeMfCJnDu7PJLqitSEwVKjHh+lW+IntsX9AcrXYa8MmF9mQQuLNouaYWaZ t89mUhaFTj10pDheuSsud6/iGqvVXGPd+kfv2u2KevrSSvZwdLBWBMrjcX5Pl8sM720X 31i+TBwa/wRiwNdnEbLFALBagNjNl3GPyLt5o/kc6cTq8ETLgMo+eZk3xexuU/QwKX9Z cInFuRS3M5khmIVVpkwrUWhT//tvn2YVbxGBziqN3FbBkdmtHmWTjOvKTkVsiT0orwyC jZDA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLMzLuNrkhULsG6KMGuxSOX/1J3Z1Y04v0biSmQAirfvYPe0xaqX+BzuKlcvKxl2O1b4Xz6aW1l+UBNTA== X-Received: by 10.107.63.137 with SMTP id m131mr20413606ioa.157.1457372307865; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 09:38:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <56DDB91D.3020006@vanderhoff.org> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:104234 On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 4:23 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Thanks to all who replied to my cry for help; I understand it better now. > But: > > On 07/03/16 16:08, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> >> The documentation should tell you what you need to import to make >> something work. In this case, I would guess that "import >> tkinter.messagebox" or "from tkinter import messagebox" would be the >> recommended way to use this module. > > > Well, I found the tkinter documentation to be sparse in the extreme > (https://docs.python.org/release/3.1.3/library/tkinter.html), and it > certainly doesn't go into that sort of detail. You're looking at an ancient version of the docs. Here's the newest docs: https://docs.python.org/3/library/tkinter.html Up the top, it says to start with "import tkinter" or "from tkinter import *", and then it lists some *other modules* (including "tkinter.messagebox"). Obviously with the "turtle" module, you have to import that separately (it's completely outside the tkinter hierarchy); the same is true of the others. Incidentally, this message is visible in the 3.1.3 docs that you linked to, too. But I still recommend reading the current docs (unless you're actually running your code on 3.1.3, in which case you really REALLY should upgrade). ChrisA