Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeder2.ecngs.de!ecngs!feeder.ecngs.de!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.019 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'bug.': 0.07; 'framework.': 0.07; 'git': 0.09; 'bug': 0.10; ':-)': 0.12; '16:05': 0.16; 'bisect': 0.16; 'bug,': 0.16; 'from:addr:mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:python': 0.16; 'from:name:mrab': 0.16; 'message- id:@mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'ops': 0.16; 'received:192.168.1.4': 0.16; 'received:84.93': 0.16; 'received:84.93.230': 0.16; 'seconds.': 0.16; 'thoughts?': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'runs': 0.18; '>>>': 0.20; '2015': 0.20; 'aug': 0.20; 'occurs': 0.22; 'somewhere': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'compare': 0.27; 'issue,': 0.27; 'otherwise.': 0.27; 'see,': 0.27; 'delayed': 0.29; 'second,': 0.29; 'unlikely': 0.29; 'program,': 0.29; 'code': 0.30; 'seconds': 0.31; 'probably': 0.31; 'says': 0.32; 'received:84': 0.32; 'maybe': 0.33; 'problem': 0.33; 'changing': 0.34; 'server': 0.34; 'could': 0.35; 'subject:time': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'asking': 0.35; 'should': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'christian': 0.38; 'wrong': 0.38; 'received:192': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'ever': 0.60; 'here.': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'within': 0.64; 'between': 0.65; 'subject': 0.70; 'sunday': 0.72; 'introduce': 0.79; 'bottle': 0.84; 'cecil': 0.84; 'claim.': 0.84; 'gollwitzer': 0.84; "op's": 0.84; 'westerhof': 0.84; 'serious': 0.97 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=MbeRwMLf c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:117 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=Yo2XpZhZnQAA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=bK-XeoiSO5kgi7rA_f8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-AUTH: mrabarnett@:2500 Subject: Re: Sometimes bottle takes a lot of time To: python-list@python.org References: <87si7cnxq6.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> <87io87o93w.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> <87twrrmpvp.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> <87si7akp4y.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> From: MRAB Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 16:44:33 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87si7akp4y.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1440344685 news.xs4all.nl 23765 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51087 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:95594 On 2015-08-23 16:20, Cecil Westerhof wrote: > On Sunday 23 Aug 2015 16:05 CEST, Johannes Bauer wrote: > >> On 22.08.2015 16:15, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: >> >>> Probably yes. You should take a look at the OP again and compare >>> the time stamps. It says that in between two consecutive calls of >>> the same program, the request was served once in a second, and once >>> with serious delays. Despite that the server is localhost. In >>> between both trials there are 20 seconds. I do not see, how git >>> bisect would help here. >> >> I do completely understand that in two consecutive runs one time the >> problem occurs and the other time it doesn't. >> >> It's highly unlikely that such a bug would ever have passed the >> bottle QA and if it did it would affect thousands of users (who >> would report this issue, since it's very severe). It is much more >> likely the bug is somewhere within the OP's program. By git bisect >> he can find out where he introduced the bug. > > You have to explain something to me: how can I introduce a bug without > changing anything? Maybe by having wrong thoughts? > > >>> Note that this says nothing about the location of the bug, in can >>> still be either in the OPs code or in the framework. >> >> Yup. Note that he has now shifted from blaming bottle to blaming >> Firefox. Same thing with that claim. If somehow website delivery was >> delayed 6 seconds reproducibly, people would have noticed. > > I never blamed bottle, I was asking if it could be a problem with > bottle. > The subject says otherwise. :-) [snip]