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On 19/08/2012 09:54, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote:
> About the exemples contested by Steven:
>
> eg: timeit.timeit("('ab…' * 10).replace('…', 'œ…')")
>
>
> And it is good enough to show the problem. Period. The
> rest (you have to do this, you should not do this, why
> are you using these characters - amazing and stupid
> question -) does not count.
>
> The real problem is elsewhere. *Americans* do not wish
> a character occupies 4 bytes in *their* memory. The rest
> of the world does not count.
>
> The same thing happens with the utf-8 coding scheme.
> Technically, it is fine. But after n years of usage,
> one should recognize it just became an ascii2. Especially
> for those who undestand nothing in that field and are
> not even aware, characters are "coded". I'm the first
> to think, this is legitimate.
>
> Memory or "ability to treat all text in the same and equal
> way"?
>
> End note. This kind of discussion is not specific to
> Python, it always happen when there is some kind of
> conflict between ascii and non ascii users.
>
> Have a nice day.
>
> jmf
>

Roughly translated.  "I've been shot to pieces and having seen Monty 
Python and the Holy Grail I know what to do.  Run away, run away"

-- 
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence.