Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'way:': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'happily': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; 'false,': 0.09; 'func': 0.09; 'reply-to:addr:comp.lang.python': 0.09; 'to:addr:comp.lang.python': 0.09; 'output': 0.10; 'def': 0.13; 'anymore.': 0.16; 'assembly,': 0.16; 'aye': 0.16; 'comma,': 0.16; 'erlang.': 0.16; 'handy': 0.16; 'lambda': 0.16; 'logic.': 0.16; 'magic.': 0.16; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.16; "wouldn't": 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.18; 'functions,': 0.18; 'this?': 0.19; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.20; 'maybe': 0.21; 'dec': 0.22; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'statement': 0.23; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'consist': 0.24; 'keyword': 0.24; 'code': 0.25; 'helpful': 0.26; "i'm": 0.26; 'function': 0.27; '(this': 0.28; 'skip:( 40': 0.28; 'exit': 0.29; 'true,': 0.29; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.29; 'pm,': 0.29; 'example': 0.29; 'decorators': 0.30; 'logic': 0.30; 'chris': 0.30; 'does': 0.32; 'thu,': 0.32; 'implement': 0.32; "isn't": 0.33; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.33; 'there': 0.33; 'it?': 0.33; 'done': 0.34; 'someone': 0.34; 'from:addr:googlemail.com': 0.34; '(including': 0.34; 'function.': 0.34; 'nested': 0.34; 'skip:@ 10': 0.34; 'however,': 0.36; 'uses': 0.36; 'thursday,': 0.37; 'skip:" 10': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'entry': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'could': 0.37; 'doing': 0.38; 'using': 0.38; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'put': 0.38; 'why': 0.39; "it's": 0.40; 'missing': 0.40; 'received:209': 0.40; 'once': 0.60; 'more': 0.61; 'type': 0.61; '2011': 0.61; 'your': 0.61; 'saturday,': 0.64; 'high': 0.67; 'header:Reply-To:1': 0.71; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.72; 'reply- to:addr:googlegroups.com': 0.74; 'subject:!!!': 0.76; 'care,': 0.77; '10:22': 0.84 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 16:21:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <17457040.1331.1323455329763.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pret21> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=1.168.131.48; posting-account=5JdMBQoAAABHnS4mjpqEzxnmWtgiiVNw References: <29996186.628.1323328726122.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prfb7> <17457040.1331.1323455329763.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pret21> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Google-Web-Client: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: I love the decorator in Python!!! From: 88888 Dihedral To: comp.lang.python@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: comp.lang.python@googlegroups.com List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Message-ID: Lines: 54 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1323476480 news.xs4all.nl 6878 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42400 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:16936 On Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:28:49 AM UTC+8, 88888 Dihedral wrote: > On Thursday, December 8, 2011 7:43:12 PM UTC+8, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:22 PM, K.-Michael Aye wrote: > > > I am still perplexed about decorators though, am happily using Python for > > > many years without them, but maybe i am missing something? > > > For example in the above case, if I want the names attached to each other > > > with a comma, why wouldn't I just create a function doing exactly this? Why > > > would I first write a single name generator and then decorate it so that I > > > never can get single names anymore (this is the case, isn't it? Once > > > decorated, I can not get the original behaviour of the function anymore. > > > > The example given is a toy. It's hardly useful. However, there are a > > number of handy uses for decorators; mostly, they consist of giving a > > single simple keyword to a complicated set of logic. One example is > > the @classmethod and @staticmethod decorators - the code to implement > > them could be uglier than nested inline assembly, but you don't have > > to care, because you just type "@staticmethod" in front of your def > > statement and it does its magic. > > > > Here's a handy trick that I'm sure someone has done in a more sophisticated way: > > > > def trace(func): > > if debugmode: > > return lambda *a,**ka: > > (print(">"+func.__name__),func(*a,**ka),print("<"+func.__name__))[1] > > return func > > > > Then you put @trace in front of all your functions, and if debugmode > > is False, nothing will be done - but set it to true, and you get > > console output at the entry and exit of each function. > > > > >>> @trace > > def test(x): > > print("Test! "+x) > > return 5 > > > > >>> test("asdf") > > >test > > Test! asdf > > > 5 > > > > Again, it's helpful because it condenses all the logic (including the > > 'debugmode' flag) down to a single high level directive: "Trace this > > function". > > > > ChrisA > > I did use decorators to turn functions into iterables to be traced. It is easy to use decorators in python to mimic those programs in Erlang.