Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!news.mixmin.net!feed.xsnews.nl!border-2.ams.xsnews.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.026 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'objects,': 0.07; 'backwards': 0.09; 'exceptions,': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'sentence': 0.09; 'thread,': 0.09; 'to:addr:comp.lang.python': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'yet.': 0.13; ':-)': 0.13; 'java,': 0.15; '"well,': 0.16; 'arrived': 0.16; 'buffers,': 0.16; "friend's": 0.16; 'ivor': 0.16; 'reasonably': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'windows': 0.19; 'followed': 0.20; 'java': 0.21; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'programming': 0.23; 'chapter': 0.23; 'nearly': 0.23; "haven't": 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'plain': 0.27; 'purchased': 0.27; 'url:software': 0.29; 'skip:_ 10': 0.29; 'sat': 0.33; 'text,': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'text': 0.34; 'screen': 0.34; 'needed': 0.35; 'open': 0.35; 'doing': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'too': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'data': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mark': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'advice': 0.39; 'step': 0.39; 'little': 0.39; 'july': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'subject:, ': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'information': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'book.': 0.65; 'from:addr:sbcglobal.net': 0.65; 'harder': 0.65; 'ago.': 0.66; 'complexity': 0.84; 'investigated': 0.84; 'manuals': 0.84; 'remark': 0.84; 'reminds': 0.84; 'unloading': 0.84; 'url:topic': 0.84; 'inheritance,': 0.93; 'subject:skip:E 10': 0.95 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 23:05:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=99.100.180.25; posting-account=aVGMWgkAAAB6mGKt34gyuFhFeGnfZNcf References: <3vnfd9-343.ln1@satorlaser.homedns.org> <-8SdnVrXGqie25jNnZ2dnUVZ7qKdnZ2d@bt.com> <4YudnY5tG-6-IJjNnZ2dnUVZ8gidnZ2d@bt.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Google-Web-Client: true X-Google-IP: 99.100.180.25 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Encapsulation, inheritance and polymorphism From: John Ladasky To: comp.lang.python@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Message-ID: Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1345356349 news.xs4all.nl 6931 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:47533 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:27348 On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:39:53 PM UTC-7, Mark Lawrence wrote: > I would like to spend more time on this thread, but unfortunately the 44= =20 > ton artic carrying "Java in a Nutshell Volume 1 Part 1 Chapter 1=20 > Paragraph 1 Sentence 1" has just arrived outside my abode and needs=20 > unloading :-) That reminds me of a remark I made nearly 10 years ago: "Well, I followed one friend's advice and investigated Java, perhaps a litt= le too quickly. I purchased Ivor Horton's _Beginning_Java_2_ book. It is = reasonably well-written. But how many pages did I have to read before I go= t through everything I needed to know, in order to read and write files? F= our hundred! I need to keep straight detailed information about objects, i= nheritance, exceptions, buffers, and streams, just to read data from a text= file??? I haven't actually sat down to program in Java yet. But at first glance, i= t would seem to be a step backwards even from the procedural C programming = that I was doing a decade ago. I was willing to accept the complexity of t= he Windows GUI, and program with manuals open on my lap. It is a lot harde= r for me to accept that I will need to do this in order to process plain ol= d text, perhaps without even any screen output." https://groups.google.com/d/topic/bionet.software/kk-EGGTHN1M/discussion Some things never change! :^)