Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.022 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'lines,': 0.07; 'preference': 0.07; 'nntp': 0.09; 'okay': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'considers': 0.16; 'gmane': 0.16; 'message- id:@4ax.com': 0.16; 'quoted': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'url:file': 0.16; 'usenet': 0.16; 'comment:': 0.16; 'trying': 0.19; "python's": 0.19; 'url:default': 0.19; '(the': 0.22; 'outlook': 0.22; 'url:home': 0.24; '(or': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'character': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'getting': 0.31; 'comments': 0.31; 'lines': 0.31; 'that.': 0.31; 'quotes': 0.31; 'stuff': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'another': 0.32; 'text': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'style': 0.33; 'comment': 0.34; 'sense': 0.34; 'created': 0.35; 'possible.': 0.35; 'google': 0.35; 'material': 0.36; 'shows': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'received:76': 0.38; 'system,': 0.38; 'server': 0.38; 'convention': 0.38; 'skip:[ 10': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'quote': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'mailing': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'blank': 0.60; 'length': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'world.': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'real': 0.63; 'provide': 0.64; 'news': 0.67; 'url:c': 0.67; 'between': 0.67; 'groups.': 0.74; 'group)': 0.84; 'treating': 0.84; 'url:cpython': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: Timsort in Cpython Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:16:02 -0400 Organization: IISS Elusive Unicorn References: <9ca984d5-19d9-4e82-a305-2a2f5ee341fe@googlegroups.com> <0aa2bd06-d1ae-446b-9c85-917f43af4db2@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-76-249-21-190.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 32 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1371413775 news.xs4all.nl 15902 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44008 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:48478 On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:15:11 -0700 (PDT), alphonse23@gmail.com declaimed the following: >sorry about that. I'm new to google groups. I'm trying to make sense of python's implementation of timsort through cpython: http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/default/Objects/listobject.c > Since you are new to GoogleGroups, if you can, run away from it as fast as possible. While material may look okay on their system, it is practically trashed when getting out into the real world. (Paragraphs either come in as long lines with no wrapping [Usenet/Email convention is for 80 character lines, and to allow for > quotes original text should wrap around 72-75], or they end up double-spacing stuff that comes in following the 80 character line length (GG is treating hard end-of-line as a paragraph marker, and on quoting, adding a blank line between these "paragraphs") Either subscribe to the mailing list (and use a real mail client rather than web-mail) or use a news reader; if your ISP doesn't provide an NNTP server carrying comp.lang.python, it is available from Gmane as gmane.comp.python.general (the mailing list and comp.lang.python are cross linked, and Gmane shows the mailing list as if it were a Usenet news group) And just another comment: preference on the group is "trim quoted material and comment below the quote (or interspersed with the quotes)"... The style created with M$ Outlook (Outlook goes out of its way to make it impossible to trim/intersperse -- it considers quoted material as a photocopy attached to the back of a new letter) in which one comments at the top of the quoted material, and never trims to relevant material is frowned upon. -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/