Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.184 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.64; '*S*': 0.01; ':-)': 0.06; 'done?': 0.09; 'from:addr:python': 0.09; 'rossum.': 0.09; 'call?': 0.16; 'from:addr:mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'from:name:mrab': 0.16; 'message-id:@mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'received:84.92': 0.16; 'received:84.92.122': 0.16; 'received:84.92.122.60': 0.16; 'reply- to:addr:python-list': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'subject:Questions': 0.18; 'maybe': 0.21; 'so.': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'van': 0.28; 'idle': 0.29; 'problem': 0.29; 'publicly': 0.30; 'source': 0.31; 'himself': 0.32; "isn't": 0.33; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.34; 'community': 0.34; 'someone': 0.34; 'received:84': 0.34; 'declared': 0.34; 'reply- to:addr:python.org': 0.34; 'joe': 0.35; 'but': 0.37; "there's": 0.37; 'not,': 0.37; 'some': 0.38; 'johnson': 0.39; 'leader': 0.39; 'why': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'hope': 0.61; 'your': 0.61; 'our': 0.64; 'hands': 0.64; 'believe': 0.65; 'act': 0.65; 'sincerely': 0.67; 'direct': 0.67; 'admitted': 0.67; 'yourself': 0.69; 'us.': 0.70; 'header:Reply-To:1': 0.71; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.72; 'await': 0.77; 'cancer.': 0.84; 'difference.': 0.84; 'inside.': 0.84; 'insufficient': 0.84; 'one!': 0.84; 'rally': 0.84; 'mr.': 0.85; 'cancer': 0.93 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=ANYS+kHk c=1 sm=1 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:17 a=9jsOeB20M3cA:10 a=x7Rz_4pgDdkA:10 a=OUOv7kDek9cA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=G7xk5TsxWSkvs4Tv-noA:9 a=CrolVxoJmxf35I0cvjQA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:117 X-AUTH: mrabarnett:2500 Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 17:43:55 +0000 From: MRAB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Questions about LISP and Python. References: <6b56c68d-22ed-427d-a05e-c503e9990a20@r28g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> <3847f890-210a-4695-b37c-b82103fd20d7@v5g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> <784cee1d-bb38-4773-b465-50f4de411133@s26g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: python-list@python.org List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1323366233 news.xs4all.nl 6979 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51507 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:16856 On 08/12/2011 04:10, Rick Johnson wrote: [snip] > I believe this community has a cancer. A cancer that is rotting us > from the inside. A cancer that has metastasis and is spreading like > wild fire. > The problem with a cancer is not that it rots, but that it grows uncontrollably. > *Inquisitive Joe asked:* What is the source of this cancer Rick? > > The source is a direct result of insufficient leadership. Our current > leader has failed us. Maybe he never wanted to be a leader, but when > you go and declare yourself a "benevolent dictator for life" you'd > damn well better act like one! > He never declared himself "benevolent dictator for life", others declared him so. > Why has GvR not admonished the atrocious behavior of some people in > this community? Why has GvR not admitted publicly the hideous state of > IDLE and Tkinter? Where is the rally call? Where is the community > spirit? The future of Pythin is in your hands Mr. Van Rossum. Will you > step up and do what needs to be done? Will you have the courage? i > sincerely hope so. If not, please step down and allow someone to lead. > I await the supreme commanders ascent to power. GvR isn't our leader, we are his followers. There's a difference. :-)