Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!border2.nntp.ams2.giganews.com!border4.nntp.ams.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.astraweb.com!border5.a.newsrouter.astraweb.com!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'operator': 0.03; '[0]': 0.07; 'tuple': 0.09; '(2,': 0.16; '[2,': 0.16; 'benjamin': 0.16; 'from:addr:greg.ewing': 0.16; 'from:name:greg ewing': 0.16; 'general.': 0.16; 'losing': 0.16; 'message-id:@canterbury.ac.nz': 0.16; 'received:conversion-daemon.it.canterbury.ac.nz': 0.16; 'syntax.': 0.16; 'to:name:python list': 0.16; 'string': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'example.': 0.17; 'greg': 0.22; 'subject:skip:i 10': 0.22; 'tuples': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'subject:list': 0.28; 'received:132': 0.29; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'said,': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'bad': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mean': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'think': 0.40; 'kind': 0.61; 'received:nz': 0.62; 'oscar': 0.84; 'treats': 0.84 Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:29:59 +1300 From: Greg Ewing Subject: Re: Multi-dimensional list initialization In-reply-to: To: Python List Organization: University of Canterbury | Te Whare Wananga o Waitaha MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111108 Fedora/3.1.16-1.fc14 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.16 References: <5098A55C.3090201@r3dsolutions.com> <5098C873.2000200@r3dsolutions.com> <509982CA.7050701@r3dsolutions.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1352338205 news.xs4all.nl 6921 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42520 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:32928 On 08/11/12 12:06, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > On 7 November 2012 22:16, Joshua Landau wrote: >> That said, losing: >> [0] * (2, 3) == [0] * [2, 3] >> would mean losing duck-typing in general. There are precedents for this kind of thing; the string % operator treats tuples specially, for example. I don't think it's all that bad if you regard the tuple as effectively part of the syntax. -- Greg