Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.009 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.03; 'trailing': 0.07; 'madison': 0.09; 'okay': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:posting': 0.09; 'aug': 0.13; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'top-post': 0.16; 'tend': 0.17; 'thu,': 0.17; 'subject:] ': 0.19; 'rapidly': 0.22; "i've": 0.23; 'charged': 0.27; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'outlook': 0.28; 'quoting': 0.29; 'style.': 0.29; 'included': 0.29; 'system,': 0.32; 'environment,': 0.33; 'skip:l 40': 0.33; 'url:home': 0.33; 'anyone': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'agree': 0.34; 'text': 0.34; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'possible.': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'remove': 0.61; 'office': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'learned': 0.65; 'response.': 0.67; 'paper': 0.78; 'dial-up': 0.84; 'dennis': 0.91; 'subject:Top': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 01:19:46 -0400 Organization: > Bestiaria Support Staff < References: <4e0060a6-5cd5-455c-a151-80df9509255d@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-76-253-101-16.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1345180784 news.xs4all.nl 6980 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60380 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:27222 On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 15:42:54 -0700 (PDT), Madison May declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: > > As a lurker, I agree completely with Chris's sentiments. I've been holding back on quoting the "netiquette RFC"... I also tend to blame M$ (Outlook and variants) for this tendency to quote everything and top-post -- Outlook makes it almost impossible to do a trim&interleave response style. Including everything as a trailing quote may be okay in an office environment, where it serves more as a photocopy included with an paper mail response. But anyone "raised" on 2400bps dial-up on a service that charged by the minute (GEnie, Compuserve, et al) rapidly learned to use as a log-in/pull/log-off/read-reply/log-in/send system, and to remove as much $$ quoted text as possible. -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/